I.D. Cards

[Julnar]

Have the Tories signalled the death knell of the I.D Card with this pronouncement?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8104481 .stm

[Gromit]

I hope so.

[Bazile]

The underlying inference from the tories is that they have ordered the removal trucks; for moving in to Number 10 .

The only thing that would scupper their plans to cancel the scheme , would be these alleged potential , punitive exit clauses , written into these contracts

[leggysreturn]

id cards will conme in no matter which party


they will become the future passport
and will be necessary for leaving the uk.

dont get one dont travel

simple innit ?


great idea and a fantastic aid in tracking terrorists criminals and the like .

dth ??

[DanDaDemon]

great idea and a fantastic aid in tracking terrorists criminals and the like .


And yourself...................

[Gromit]

How is a ID card a aid for tracking terrorists?

[squarebear]

I agree. The sooner, the better for these cards.

[ludwig]

Gromit - you imbecile, obviously it will be a great help in tracking terrorists because you'll have to put your occupation on there. So all the police have to do is to demand to see your card and if it says 'Terrorist' on it, they've got you bang to rights. Duh.

[youngmafbog]

Except ludwig, any Islamic terrorists would claim it was against their religion to be photographed or something and the daft UK government would cave into ther ooman rights !

[ludwig]

But hold on a sec youngmaf, if the police won't be able to do what I said, it looks like the cards are a completely pointless waste of money - surely that can't be?

[R1Geezer]

One of the rare subjects that I agree with Gromit. I bl00dy well hope so!

[sqad617]

steve.....LOL...and don't we know it.

[pfabc123]

Hi Julnar. No they will bring it in anyway because its going to be a massive earner for any government. They are using the anti terror and crime propaganda to get people to agree with it. The tories have been and will be again as corrupt as the labour lot. Mark my words that these cards will effect everyone in their pocket and will do precious little to protect people in this country. data protection is going out the window and the individuals privacy is going to be invaded beyond belief.

[rov1200]

I don't think there's much support for a national ID card. However think of its uses. Youngsters to prove their age. Benefit claimants. Couples requiring a mortgage. Accident victims requiring attention at A & E centres. Foreign nationals who are not naturalised British. Illegal immigrant prove of ID. Homeless individuals. The list is endless!

If the cost was right there could be a large voluntary takeup.
Those unregistered could hide in the shadows indefinitely.

[paraffin]

I don't understand your question, simply because the Tories aren't in power - not at the present time, anyway. So with what authority is Mr Grayling "warning off" these companies?

Perhaps he's assuming that the next General Election will be a foregone conclusion for the Tories? Beware the ides of March! I seem to remember similar overconfidence in 1992 from a certain Neil Kinnock MP, Labour leader then, and of course what happened? The "grey man" John Major got on his soapbox (literally) and scuppered Kinnock and Hattersley in the GE that year.

Besides, what guarantees are there that the Tories would scrap the scheme in the event of them winning? Forgive my cynicism, but isn't the road to Number 10 littered with broken promises? Mmmmmmhhhhhhh..........