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How can the French get away with banning headscarves?
I thought that we all signed the same Human Rights legislation? How then can the French do this? There is not a chance of it happening in this country.
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It's interesting.
He's not banning it he's establishing a commission to look at the issue.
If the commission reports that women are being compelled or pressurised to wear them then there will be a strong human rights case to ban the wearing of them.
In which case you might well see a string of other cases throughout Europe.
If the commission finds otherwise it'll be dropped
He's not banning it he's establishing a commission to look at the issue.
If the commission reports that women are being compelled or pressurised to wear them then there will be a strong human rights case to ban the wearing of them.
In which case you might well see a string of other cases throughout Europe.
If the commission finds otherwise it'll be dropped
I don't think it's completely out of the question for it to happen in this country, especially the niqab and the burka, which is what I believe Mr Sarkozy has in mind. Whatever Mr Sarkozy gives as a reason, I for one dislike the idea of speaking to someone in the flesh whose face I cannot see.
But don't human rights go two ways? If a fifteen year old girl walks into a shopping centre with her face covered by a hood, she's likely to be asked to leave even all she intends to do is actually shop. If she's a fifteen year old muslim girl wearing a hijab then she's left alone.
But don't human rights go two ways? If a fifteen year old girl walks into a shopping centre with her face covered by a hood, she's likely to be asked to leave even all she intends to do is actually shop. If she's a fifteen year old muslim girl wearing a hijab then she's left alone.
Save putting on make up and doing your hair if you want to "nip" out quickly.
When I was travelling there was a woman wearing the all in black number (don't think it was a burka) and she refused to take it off her face so they could check her passport was hers. Ridiculous then her husand , I assume ,started saying she couldn't go off in a room to uncover her face not sure why as only women were talking to her.
When I was travelling there was a woman wearing the all in black number (don't think it was a burka) and she refused to take it off her face so they could check her passport was hers. Ridiculous then her husand , I assume ,started saying she couldn't go off in a room to uncover her face not sure why as only women were talking to her.
I sincerely hope they do ban the all-over garb. It is repulsive, repugnant, demeaning to women, and inimical to Western culture. I saw a couple in Croydon today, Whitgift Centre, a modern Western shopping centre - and just those hideous slits for eyes, it made my skin crawl. It will be the norm in about 100 years time, but for the moment, please please let's outlaw it.
>In 2004 they were banned in French schools, so
>that's five years ago.
>What's all the fuss about now?
That was headscarves (and all religious symbols) in French schools.
This is about banning the Berqa in total from French life.
If only we had a leader with the willingness to do this in the UK.
Our political leaders are too scared to upset any ethnic minority.
They dont care what the white English think, but must not upset the Muslims.
>that's five years ago.
>What's all the fuss about now?
That was headscarves (and all religious symbols) in French schools.
This is about banning the Berqa in total from French life.
If only we had a leader with the willingness to do this in the UK.
Our political leaders are too scared to upset any ethnic minority.
They dont care what the white English think, but must not upset the Muslims.
Many women like it though - I was talking to some distant relatives of my Turkish neighbours - who I think are arabic - and she said that once the girls start wearing it they suddenley become interesting to men.
There's a difference in them choosing to wear it and being forced to wear it.
I'm a bit confused about it anyway as I thought the really religious muslims wouldn't allow their women to go out and mix with men anyway which is why you see so masny muslim men shopping.
Seems like they are choosing bits of their culture and religion to follow and disregarding others. Just my perdsonal view
There's a difference in them choosing to wear it and being forced to wear it.
I'm a bit confused about it anyway as I thought the really religious muslims wouldn't allow their women to go out and mix with men anyway which is why you see so masny muslim men shopping.
Seems like they are choosing bits of their culture and religion to follow and disregarding others. Just my perdsonal view
VHG:
The article says nothing about any further ban than I mentioned. Chatting about it and implementing it are two very different things. That was my point: it's a non article in a way, pure speculation.
All that's being done is a lot of hot air from Sarkozy about the "establishment of a parliamentary commission to look at whether to ban the wearing of burkas in public."
So, as I said, what's all the fuss about now?
Besides, when did we in the UK, the whole of it, have to fall in line with French policy on this subject?
The article says nothing about any further ban than I mentioned. Chatting about it and implementing it are two very different things. That was my point: it's a non article in a way, pure speculation.
All that's being done is a lot of hot air from Sarkozy about the "establishment of a parliamentary commission to look at whether to ban the wearing of burkas in public."
So, as I said, what's all the fuss about now?
Besides, when did we in the UK, the whole of it, have to fall in line with French policy on this subject?
I don't like to see women (or men for that matter) walking around with their underwear sticking out over their trousers.
I dislike the veil intensely, many people do and can't understand why.
It's because in our culture if you cover someone's mouth your saying don't speak.
This is quite a modern trend I feel in Muslim women, I certainly don't recall seeing any hijabs etc as a small boy, maybe it was'nt viewed as an issue back then, or maybe (more likely to my mind) it's that some Muslim women have decided to reject as false the new decadent values that have emerged in Britain (an eqully alien development) and by wearing the veil they are emphasising their distaste at the overt over sexualisation of women in our society.
Ultimately though I agree with Gromit it's for people to decide what they want to wear.
I dislike the veil intensely, many people do and can't understand why.
It's because in our culture if you cover someone's mouth your saying don't speak.
This is quite a modern trend I feel in Muslim women, I certainly don't recall seeing any hijabs etc as a small boy, maybe it was'nt viewed as an issue back then, or maybe (more likely to my mind) it's that some Muslim women have decided to reject as false the new decadent values that have emerged in Britain (an eqully alien development) and by wearing the veil they are emphasising their distaste at the overt over sexualisation of women in our society.
Ultimately though I agree with Gromit it's for people to decide what they want to wear.
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birdie1971
If it's a religious requirement, why is it that none of the Muslims women at my workplace wear burqas???
Could it be that like all religious texts, the Koran is up for interpretation. Sure, it's regarded as the literal word of God, but then there are some pretty crazy passages in the Bible that most level-headed Christians choose to ignore.
If it's a religious requirement, why is it that none of the Muslims women at my workplace wear burqas???
Could it be that like all religious texts, the Koran is up for interpretation. Sure, it's regarded as the literal word of God, but then there are some pretty crazy passages in the Bible that most level-headed Christians choose to ignore.
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