mmm..what do u think

[northboy]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090707/tuk-immig rants-don-t-top-housing-list-6323e80.html

[jake-the-peg]

I think there's nothing like facts to show up racist progaganda and the fools that believe it.

Now it's put up or shut up time for those who disagree let's see the evidence

And no more of the "I know some one who said he met a bloke in a pub who had 50,million immigrants put into council houses on his street" sort of rubbish.

Lets see some facts

[sara3]

I think it would have been courteous to say thank you, after I researched and replied to your previous question.

[joggerjayne]

I think ... I'll make some more coffee.

[sara3]

trying to fight off the Alzheimer's, Jayne? ;o)

[jake-the-peg]

You're not playing ball!

We're meant to answer that it's a fit up and a bunch of lies by a load of liberal lefties to disguish the fact that they're discriminating againg hard working white natives in favour of the nasty foreign layabout foreigners

Now get with the program!

[sara3]

yes, and I'm more interested in good manners :o)

[craft1948]

I'm really sorry that I can't help either..........I don't know anybody who lives in a council house...........make me a cup please Jayne..............

[Gromit]

You'll be telling us the immigrants aren't rushed to the front of the queue for operations and doctors appointments next.

[rov1200]

A government official on the radio today said the immigrants who arrived here legally are treated by a different department to those who arrive illegally and claim asylum. The former have to be resident in UK for 5 years and are then able to go on the council waiting list like everyone else.

However the asylum seekers may be housed much quicker by a different department according to their needs. They may not be given council accommodation but government sponsored directed private accommodation. Thats probably why you see stories of immigrants in expensive houses being rented out. You don't see many drifters as you do in Calais do you.

[craft1948]

Gromit...the immigrants aren't at the front of the doctors queues.....they're behind the gypsies...........

[jake-the-peg]

But that's OK Craft because over 93% of Daily Mail readers think that Gypsys should be allowed to jump the NHS queue.

http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/editors/2009/06/ 20/twitterers-claim-victory-over-loaded-daily- mail-gypsy-poll/

[Julnar]

This is the Mails spin on this story and it reads very differently from the one provided in the question.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-119801 6/One-state-subsidised-homes-goes-immigrant-fa mily.html
It is amazing how the same facts can be interpreted depending on your underlying viewpoint of a given situation.

[Gromit]

here is a list of this story reported in other news outlets. The Mail's conclusion is curious compared to everyone else's.

http://news.google.co.uk/news/more?pz=1&ned=uk &cf=all&ncl=d7dXUl6VNoFY82MIxCWFxXCsVQREM

Do you think they read the same report?

[noway2]

well I know a guy who knows another guy,who said...bla,bla,bla..............Oh never mind.

[anotheoldgit]

It's a myth that immigrants are favoured when it comes to allocating social housing so the indigenous white population is wrong to think that it loses out to foreigners, the Equality and Human Rights Commission has reported.

So it must be true if the EHRC has reported it?

Could it be that they have their own axe to grind?

Perhaps they are getting worried at the number of people turning to the BNP?

[paraffin]

To me, this is not just about racism, for that undoubtedly plays a part in some peoples' thinking and opinions when this thorny subject is raised. It's as much to do with broken promises and incompetence by politicians and the relevant authorities as by outright racism. People have had enough.

Yes, the UK is a signatory to the UN Convention relating to refugees, but there's a significant difference between the genuine asylum seeker and the social migrant who is simply seeking a better standard of living.

I simply cannot believe that the UK is the first port of call for any of these people. And that fact is just as valid as are our responsibilities under the above UN Convention.

Whatever became of the international agreement on "safe third country rule"? Is the UK their first port of call? The obvious answer, unless all these people have travelled a very circuitous route, is "no".

Can anyone seriously justify the fact that the several hundred thousand immigrants/asylum seekers referred to in the link have all met the required criteria? I think not.

[Gromit]

paraffin

Can anyone seriously justify the fact that the several hundred thousand immigrants/asylum seekers referred to in the link have all met the required criteria?

i can not see that referred to in the link. I cannot see any mention of asylum seekers, are you making it up. I can see Iit says (EHRC) found that only 1.8% of social tenants had moved to the UK within the past five years.

Some 87.8% were UK-born and 10% foreigners who had been living in Britain for more than five years.

[Gromit]

AOG

The research was done independently for the EHRC by the Institute for Public Policy Research who are well established and respected organisation.

i know the facts can get in the way of your prejudices sometimes, so I can see why it is simpler just to dismiss it out of hand.

[paraffin]

Gromit:

So we're talking about pukka gen immigrants, are we?

To answer, please first extract your head from your backside.

[Gromit]

Paraffin

Please have a look at the Institute for Public Policy Research's figures and conclusions on this link.

http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/media-centr e/research-finds-no-bias-in-allocation-of-soci al-housing/