Babies (not a nice story).

[Bbbananas]

On my local tv news yesterday was a report on how young criminals had broken into a woman's house and ransacked it. The worst thing was they found a box with ashes in it - which they scattered all over the living room. The ashes were those of her baby who had died.

This is a despicable crime and I hope those lads pay for it, or at least feel remorse. But apparently they only scattered half the ashes in the box (as though that makes it any less awful) and the baby in question had not actually been born - mum had miscarried at 16 weeks (as though that makes the whole event less upsetting to the mother).

Would it have been an even worse crime if the baby had been, for instance, stillborn at full term or died after birth? Would it have been worse if all the ashes had been thrown around? A bit of a moral debate here - any thoughts?

[ummmm]

It would be disgusting if it was her cats ashes...let alone a baby. Sickening.

[cazzz1975]

regardless of how old the baby was when it died its a despicable thing to do with any ashes.

[redman41]

As I mentioned in the other post Salla, these Animals have no morals at all. Being a Fatalist I firmly believe that the Wheel of Fortune/Misfortune will turn, and one day something horrible will happen to these perpetrators.
Life has an uncanny way of paying back when one least expects.

[Bbbananas]

Oh I agree cazzz, but I am wondering if there are any people on here who would feel differently. When discussing this last night with a couple of friends, one of them (a man I should add) felt that it would have been far more distressing if the baby had not been 'miscarried', but had been a full-term birth baby.

[cazzz1975]

I think my problem with it is nothing to do with the baby or the baby's age, more to do with the lack of respect for the dead shown by the thugs.

[Bbbananas]

These lads probably thought they were the ashes of a pet dog or something - they probably thought the whole thing was hilarious. Shameful. I hope whoever they are, find out exactly what they have done, and feel so guilty and remorseful they cannot sleep at night.

I wonder what the odds are on that though? Pitifully low I should imagine.

[redcrx]

doesnt matter what age the child was, born, misscarried, stillborn at 40 weeks or an old man of 95.

the ashes are still of someone that was loved and cherished, whether they entered this world or not.

I wonder if the culprits actually knew who the ashes were. Id like to think that they didnt and just knew it was ashes. To think that they may have thought of who it was and then decided to kick them about is even worse.

[Sqad]

insensitive, unnecessary, but in the depths of degradation that man's inhumanity to man goes....no big deal.

[LoftyLottie]

No Big Deal again Sqad. A bl00dy big deal to the Mother of that baby. No it probably wouldn't be worse if the baby had been born and died or stillborn.

No-one can quantify another person's grief!

[Sqad]

Lofty...that's right....sorry.

[LoftyLottie]

Apology accepted.

[lil75]

God pays debts without money!!!

[Seadragon]

Yes, it is a despicable act on behalf of the criminals who carried out this act. But I wonder, how long the ashes had been in the box? If the ashes were to be dispersed somewhere soon, then the crime is truly hideous. However, if the ashes had been 'kept' for along time, then I know this doesn't make the crime any less despicable, but I believe that out of 'bad' comes 'good'. A person may not realise it for along time, but the criminals act could in a sickening way allow the mother to finally 'let go' of her child - If that is the case.

[marval]

It does not matter how old the baby was, the scum are the lowest of the low. It was bad enough that they entered the house to ramsack and burgle, but to empty the ashes was despicable. I hope one day justice is done.