Is Rod Liddle a racist?

[anotheoldgit]

/// Rod Liddle has an impeccable Leftish background as a former Today programme editor ///

Even so it would seem that he has dared to tell it as it is, he calls them 'human filth', whereas I call them 'savages'

Are we to continue to sweep matters under the carpet, that don't match the belief that a multi-racist society is all good, and anyone who disagrees with this is a racist?

http://www.thisislond...crime-on-black-men.do

http://www.spectator....ultural-britain.thtml

http://blogs.telegrap...th_about_knife_crime/

[R1Geezer]

probably we will continue to sweep matters under the carpet until people realise that quoting inconvenient statistics is not tantamount to racism.

[youngmafbog]

This attutude will die with Noo Labour. Just got to return the champaign socialists to the coffe shops of Islington

[Gromit]

Not sure he has an 'impeccable' Leftish background.

In 2005 he made a 'Dispatches' documentary, entitled 'Immigration Is A Time Bomb' and penned a column 'Alas, I must defend the BNP'

His racist credentials are impeccable.

[jake-the-peg]

You still here?

I thought you'd have been murdered in your bed by all these violent immigrants overwhelming the country by now.

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

It may be alien to you but even some Lefties can sometimes agree with the facts, just as some on the right must agree to some otherwise Left views. These are called rational thinkers, the others are call hard line bigots.

Your two examples of why you class him as racist just do not hold water.

For example, /// In 2005 he made a 'Dispatches' documentary, entitled 'Immigration Is A Time Bomb' ///

What is racist about that? It is one opinion, whereas there have also been many documentaries made highlighting the benefits of immigration, It is what is called 'differences of opinion', and everyone has the right to an opinion, in a free country.

/// and penned a column 'Alas, I must defend the BNP'///

It would seem for reasons only known to yourself, you failed to post why in this instance he had the need to defend the BNP.

[sp1814]

ha ha...brilliant:

Playwright Bonnie Greer, who appeared on the BBC's Question Time to challenge BNP leader Nick Griffin, said: "My response would be to say that the overwhelming majority of paedophiles, murderers, war-mongers and football hooligans are white males and all we got in return was beans on toast and Top Gear."

[sp1814]

AOG

You call them savages because you are of a generation which automatically applies racist language when confronted by black crime. You wouldn't use the word 'savages' if you were talking about white rapists. You would call them thugs.

It's an age thing.

Seriously.

[Gromit]

//there have also been many documentaries made highlighting the benefits of immigration//

Really? I must have missed those, can you name one?

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// You wouldn't use the word 'savages' if you were talking about white rapists.///

You seem to be getting rather forgetful.

In the past I have argued with you extensively over this, I have said many times that the word 'savages' is only linked to racism in your own 'chip on your shoulder' controlled mind.

The following answer I gave to another ABer, sums it up pretty well.

/// Once again putting words into my mouth I am not in anyway referring to ther populous of the "Dark Continent" when I refered to "savages" These acts were savage attacks. You suggested I used the word "monsters" I could have used many words, "barbarous",(but that means un-civilised) "bestial",(but that is damming towards animals) or "wolfish" even (once again why call a particular animal) ///.

In the past I have also said , that "if a person or persons have committed a horrific crime, I will continue to class that crime as a 'savage' attack, and the instigators of such a crime as 'savages', be them Black, White, yellow, or Sky Blue pink.

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit You mean to tell me that you have watched any such documentaries, do you never watch Channel 4 or the BBC?

http://www.dailymail....fuel-race-hatred.html

Was one such documentary but it dared also to tell a certain amount of truth that upset some.

I am still waiting for you to post those links. Why did he feel the need to support the BNP?

[sp1814]

anotheoldgit

You only made the comment "if a person or persons have committed a horrific crime, I will continue to class that crime as a 'savage' attack, and the instigators of such a crime as 'savages', be them Black, White, yellow, or Sky Blue pink" AFTER you were pulled up about using it explicitly about that gang of black rapists.

The reason I call you a bigoted racist is because of the constant drip-drip-drip of anti-black/Muslim posts.

I woudn't call Rod Liddle a racist at all. However, if he had a newspaper column where he would week in, week out, attack blacks/Muslims/Sikhs over anything ("why don't they wear poppies?", "why don't they remove their turbans as a sign of respect?", "why don't they do charity work?", "Why do they only protest when the British army kill civilians?", "Was England safer before the the foreigners arrived?")

This summary is a little unfaitr, because you don't EXCLUSIVELY post anti-immigrant threads - it's more like 65% of your posts.

Let me stress - asking critical questions is absolutely NOT racist.

But when someone is so overwhelmingly focussed on pointing out all that is bad in the immigrant community (you yourself said that blacks don't get enough negative attention in the media) you have to ask yourself 'why'?

[Quinlad]

No one is suggesting that a multi-racist society is "all good" anymore than you're suggesting it's all bad.

Hope this helps.