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R1Geezer | 10:53 Thu 07th Jan 2010 | News
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Keyplus Said below:
"Now let me ask you a question, "Would you like all the religious people to give up religion completely and start thinking as you do, Simple Yes or No would do. "

"YES" is my inequivocal answer, if we ould expunge all the different brands of fairy tale I'm certain the world would be a better, more peaceful place. Would it? your thoughts please..
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no, we would just argue about oil, the weather, schools closing, scottish people and those with ginger hair.
Yes.
People will always find something to argue about and disagree with.
Yes - People may argue over things in general, but what religion does is give a huge group of people across many countries a unequivical and unethical stand point i.e I am Muslim i stand with my brothers, Irrespective of the rights and wrongs of the situation.

How many times do you hear a religious person claim persecution becuse of the thier religion? When this happens people of the same religion then side with them. This was a huge part of the protection of the I.R.A in Ireland as it was seen as a religious divide.

Keyplus seems to need rules and cannot think for himself. His rules are the be all and end all of his thinking and it genuinly seems to puzzle him that people can think for themselves.
but could you not also refer to our forces in the middle east and say:

i am british and i stand with my brothers

(irrespective of the rights and wrongs of the situation) ?
Yep I could but I don't. I support the troops because they are doing a job. I am against the reasons for war and would welcome a withdrawal A.S.A.P.

It is not a way of life and as soon as it is over, its over I wouldn't spend 600 years telling the bredrin how they have been wronged.
really, you haven't heard scots talking about rebellion and the english then ?
No.

Those that want to create some sort of "order" to wield power would do so anyway (cf Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin - I may be wrong, but I don't think any of those used religion as a basis for their actions). Similarly, those that want to feel persecuted will find others with a common cause ("travellers", fox hunters etc).

On the other hand religion does give a great deal of comfort to many, and the basic tenet of most religions is "be good to one another".

I am an atheist, by the way. (But not a "Richard Dawkins" type - I feel that his particular brand of proselytizing Atheism is pretty much another type of religion).
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"On the other hand religion does give a great deal of comfort to many, and the basic tenet of most religions is "be good to one another"
be good to on another?? Unless they happen to disagree with my views.....right oh!
so disagreeing with your views is bad is it ?
No. There are studies showing religious people are happier people. Why would I want to make people less happy in the hope (unfounded, imo) that lack of religion will somehow stop wars?

http://abcnews.go.com...tory?id=435412&page=1
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ankou I was refering to the phrase in quotes. Ie a religious person is tollerant until they find out you do not share their views. I was not talking about me!
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yes relgious people are very happy because they have found a way that they are allowed to do bad things in the name of god/allah/buddh/pinochio etc etc and therefore are doing the work of said diety and as such are in fact good.

good people do good things, bad people do bad things, it takes religion to make good people do bad things
....or alcohol, drugs, mixing with the wrong crowd, supporting millwall, owning a range rover, being a traveler, an assylum seeker, living on benefits ........

jealousy can be bad too.
Whatever gets them through. Same with everyone really. Live and let live.

This willy-waving display of enlightenment is just another form of Daily Mailism - prescribing a way of life and castigating people who don't adhere to it.
..I'm Scottish with ginger hair!!!
They can stay religious


All I want is

A) No more bishops and religious leaders in the house of Lords
B) No more public money going to religious schools
C) Abolition of compusory acts of worship in state funded schools (they can continue to teach comparative religion as an optional subject)

Is that really so much to ask for?
That's unfortunate Haggisdj... About the scottish bit I mean ;oP

No... I think as long as people aren't hurting others I don't really see what the problem is. My mums religious, as long as she's not forcing it down my throat I really couldn't give a monkeys, it makes her happy.
Do you look like that Russ Abbot character haggis? Jimmy with the kilt & the ginger hair?

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