Should we have been given a referendum on becoming a Multi-cultured nation?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail....multicultural-UK.html

Forget a referendum as to whether we should have joined the ECC.

Forget a referendum as to whether we should have invaded a foreign country.

Forget a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty.

Forget a referendum as to whether we should alter our voting procedure.

More important than all these is, why wasn't the British people given a referendum on whether or not we should have become a "Multi Cultural" Britain?

Now we have a "Broken Britain" with well over half of the population wishing to leave the country, given the chance.

[McMouse]

Regretably the wrong 50% wish to leave.

[Quinlad]

They do have the chance to leave.

It's only their staggering laziness, babyish fear of other places and inability to adapt that stops them.

They stick around because they're weak, slovenly or dim - or because, despite their moaning, they like it here.

[Gromit]

// Labour’s immigration strategy was to ‘rub the Right’s nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date’. //

AOG. Your arguments are out of date.

[anotheoldgit]

Quinlad

/// It's only their staggering laziness, babyish fear of other places and inability to adapt that stops them. ///

No it is because when arriving at their chosen destination, they won't be given free housing, put on benefits, given free medical care, and then given precedence in jobs etc, etc.

[Quinlad]

Exactly. They don't have the gumption to get by on their own. So they stay here.

[jno]

I suppose there's also the slight problem that even Rwanda wouldn't want planeloads of whingeing poms descending on them. However, Australia is slightly more understanding. So why doesn't everyone just learn hairdressing and go there?

[fredpuli47]

Bit difficult to frame a question on multi-culturalism.How do you define it for a yes/no answer ?

[jno]

good queston, fredpuli. How about:
- no rap, hip-hop, soul or blues. All singers to sound like Vera Lynn, pbuh.
- Notting Hill carnival to be replaced by morris dancing.
- all Pakistani-owned corner shops to be taken over by Tescos.
- cleaning ladies must all show UK birth certificates before being hired. Okay, there won't be any more cleaning ladies, so Brits will just have to live with dirty toilets.
- Christmas must be banned again, a la Cromwell; imported from Middle East.
- In fact, all these Middle Eastern religiins to be banned. Reinstate druids, with all their human sacrifices.

Any more ideas?

[anotheoldgit]

Any more ideas?

Yes no more jno, with his stupid, childish answers.

[Rev Sermon]

When should we have had the referendum though, pre 1066 when the Normans came over, before the Angles and Saxons (Those Germans from whom all Anglo-Saxons are descended from), pre-55 bc when the Italians started turning up (I mean what did the Romans ever do for us?).

[jno]

aog, all my suggestions (except the cleaning ladies, perhaps) did indeed relate to cultural elements imported from elsewhere. Do you think they should have been? Or should we have stuck with the druids? (They were wiped out by the Roman invaders.)

[anotheoldgit]

Rev Sermon

Oh dear that same old chestnut, "This country was invaded and populated by foreigners, thousands of years ago"

It's almost as bad as that other one "we needed this influx of immigrants, because there were jobs waiting that the indigenous population did not want"

No, the massive influx of immigrants, with a different culture and religion, has changed the face of Britain beyond recognition in some areas.

[jno]

but that doesn't answer Rev Sermon's arguments (or mine) at all.

Of course immigration changes cultures (though they change anyway without immigration - look in any cinema). But at what historical point would you have drawn the line? Your 21st birthday? And would you be here today to do it if the druids had held a binding referendum?

[DrFilth]

if we had a vote and voted no , would we then have another vote till we voted yes

[anotheoldgit]

/// Of all Labour's legacies, the effects of ten years of unrestricted immigration will surely be the most lasting.///

How very true.

[anotheoldgit]

On the same day as secret papers suggest Labour threw open the doors to mass migration in a deliberate policy to change the social make-up of the UK, we have this case.

http://www.dailymail....ese-traffickers.html.

/// Judge Richard Bray told the siblings they face deportation for securing British citizenship by fraud.///

/// He said: 'I will do my duty. I can only hope the Home Office will do theirs.///

Don't hold your breath.

[Rev Sermon]

AOG,

I'm not particularly in favour of mass immigration and if your proposal was to strictly limit the number of people coming into the country I would probably agree but I wouldn't differentiate on the basis of culture.

Your response "that old chstnut amuses me". Your question is "an old chestnut" so what kind of answer do you expect? My point wasn't that the country was invaded by foreigners thousands of years ago but that there has been a continuous flux of people in and out of these islands for thousands of years. Britain has been multicultural for at least 2,000 years.

I concede Jno's earlier answer was perhaps glib but it was a valid point, our culture is built on many cultures. I rant about English culture at times but I accept it is not unique or standalone it has been added to by all the cultures that have come here over a period of centuries.

[sp1814]

This is what I propose - every person who has a problem with immigrants to the UK should give up the proportion of their pension that's funded by the national insurance contributions by those immigrants.

Furthermore, they should elect NOT to be treated bu any member of NHS staff who was not born here.

Also, they should be banned from using ANY mode of public transport driven by an immigrant, nor should they be allowed to use any goods or services which are in any way connected to anyone born abroad.

They can however, be use the services of true, real, hardworking Brits:

http://i.dailymail.co...005DC-379_468x423.jpg

And no - I am NOT being sarcastic. I TOTALLY love Emma and the rest of the Chawners.

[fredpuli47]

Is there some statistic to show that well over half the population wish to leave the country given the chance ?
What reason(s) do they give ?
And what is stopping them? How are they not 'given the chance' ?

[anotheoldgit]

fredpuli47

Family commitments, Job prospects, age, health reasons, to name a few.