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Do you reckon this chap is sincere?
http://news.bbc.co.uk...ddle_east/8523340.stm
Is old dinnerjacket keeping the ayatollah in the dark or is the cleric just invoking one of the main cornerstones of Islam, namely you can lie if it suits you?
Is old dinnerjacket keeping the ayatollah in the dark or is the cleric just invoking one of the main cornerstones of Islam, namely you can lie if it suits you?
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He is spouting the usual b*lloks.
Despite the Yoghurt knitters denial this wont end until Islam is put in ite place.
There will be a big war before long.
Smacks of waiting for the tanks to invade Poland and the famous quote of " I have a letter in my habd" as the tanks rolled in.
Bleeding heart liberals still wont believe it even when the first Nuke hits - and it will unless the UN grows some Balls
Despite the Yoghurt knitters denial this wont end until Islam is put in ite place.
There will be a big war before long.
Smacks of waiting for the tanks to invade Poland and the famous quote of " I have a letter in my habd" as the tanks rolled in.
Bleeding heart liberals still wont believe it even when the first Nuke hits - and it will unless the UN grows some Balls
History not your strong point then youngmafbog?
The problem is, if you let one country have Nuclear weapons in the middle east, you create the present situation where others want them, to counter the perceived threat. It is a bit hypocritical coming from countries that already have used them (and plan to renew their own nuclear arsenals) to say other countries cannot have them.
We did it ourselves. We said we were persuing cheap sustainable energy and that fuel bills in the future would be peanuts, when we were really perfecting our own weapons.
The problem is, if you let one country have Nuclear weapons in the middle east, you create the present situation where others want them, to counter the perceived threat. It is a bit hypocritical coming from countries that already have used them (and plan to renew their own nuclear arsenals) to say other countries cannot have them.
We did it ourselves. We said we were persuing cheap sustainable energy and that fuel bills in the future would be peanuts, when we were really perfecting our own weapons.
BGB right there Gromit! for spouting the usual "already used them" diatribe and of course missing out how many lives where saved as a result. In fact I reckon you have won one of these before!
The big difference here is that Islamic nutters would not hesitate to use them in an instant, probably against Israel initially then the great satan and maybe even the little satan! You lefties just make me pi55 myself, when dinner jacket drops a Nuke on London you'll be in the Islington Cafe with your organic peace muesli bar and your decaf Mocha choca cuban free trade coffee wondering why we where targetted because we are all nice chaps really!
The big difference here is that Islamic nutters would not hesitate to use them in an instant, probably against Israel initially then the great satan and maybe even the little satan! You lefties just make me pi55 myself, when dinner jacket drops a Nuke on London you'll be in the Islington Cafe with your organic peace muesli bar and your decaf Mocha choca cuban free trade coffee wondering why we where targetted because we are all nice chaps really!
R1, the chattering classes, clearly the likes of Gromit and Jake will never understand.
To them everything in the work is an ideal, they have no concept of how the world and the common man(btw the majority) think.
Like you say it would make interesting viewing watching them choking over their muslei whist an Iranian Nuke goes off over little satin,
To them everything in the work is an ideal, they have no concept of how the world and the common man(btw the majority) think.
Like you say it would make interesting viewing watching them choking over their muslei whist an Iranian Nuke goes off over little satin,
OK ymb
So why hasn't North Korea nuked us all yet?
Is their hatred of the west so much less because they're not muslims?
The fact of the matter is that the sort of Uranium bombs that Iran could make are peashooters compared to the hydrogen bombs possessed by the big atomic powers.
They would however be particularly usefull in deterring an invasion by some power who might have a habit of invading middle eastern countries.
See North Korea again and why nobody's in a hurry to invade them.
The trouble with you reactionary knee jerkers is your inability to see anything without patriotic sunglasses on.
Try putting yourself in someone elses shoes for a while you might learn something
So why hasn't North Korea nuked us all yet?
Is their hatred of the west so much less because they're not muslims?
The fact of the matter is that the sort of Uranium bombs that Iran could make are peashooters compared to the hydrogen bombs possessed by the big atomic powers.
They would however be particularly usefull in deterring an invasion by some power who might have a habit of invading middle eastern countries.
See North Korea again and why nobody's in a hurry to invade them.
The trouble with you reactionary knee jerkers is your inability to see anything without patriotic sunglasses on.
Try putting yourself in someone elses shoes for a while you might learn something
youngmafbog
The Atomic Energy Act was passed in 1946.
Britain's first reactor went critical in 1948.
Britain's first bomb in 1952.
Braitain's first commercial energy to the national grid in 1956.
Power generation and weapons manufacturing are intrinsically linked. We were told we were developing cheap power, but not that we were also developing weapons. This is what is feared is happen in Iran. We think we know what they are doing, because we did the same thing 60 years ago.
The Atomic Energy Act was passed in 1946.
Britain's first reactor went critical in 1948.
Britain's first bomb in 1952.
Braitain's first commercial energy to the national grid in 1956.
Power generation and weapons manufacturing are intrinsically linked. We were told we were developing cheap power, but not that we were also developing weapons. This is what is feared is happen in Iran. We think we know what they are doing, because we did the same thing 60 years ago.
The big problem is the self appointed policeman has spent all his money on a great party and no longer has the will or brains to work out how to sort the issues out.
Shouting at independent countries is pretty stupid especially for a "New" country that only got started in 1776 by opposing their lawful government?
Shouting at independent countries is pretty stupid especially for a "New" country that only got started in 1776 by opposing their lawful government?
The point you miss jake is that Islam care not about retribution, they are willing to die for Allah and consider it a privilidge. if I may take your pea shooter analogy for minute, they rountinely fire rockets at Israel knowing that what the reponse will be.
Do you think in your heart of hearts that if say for example Hamas had a Nuke, they would not use it on Israel if they could? Iran has gone on record countless times with their intentions. Rhetoric? perhaps, I'd rather not take the chance.
Do you think in your heart of hearts that if say for example Hamas had a Nuke, they would not use it on Israel if they could? Iran has gone on record countless times with their intentions. Rhetoric? perhaps, I'd rather not take the chance.
jake its not just the wathead you also have to have tne rocket plus tne will. I see korea as rhetoric, an islamic nation however works on the idealism that yoy go to heaven with 72 virgins for killing the infidel.
Gromt, well done for british history but i think a nucleat bomb was droped well before that. Do you think i am stupid?
By the way ED any chace of wap enabling this site its arwal pain on a mobile.
Gromt, well done for british history but i think a nucleat bomb was droped well before that. Do you think i am stupid?
By the way ED any chace of wap enabling this site its arwal pain on a mobile.
Geezer give yourself a badge, well done.
You have just stated in it's entirety the whole idea of a nuclear deterrant, the notion that your enemy is daft enough to use it is the whole point of having it.
You also have to find a way around the S.A.L.T 1 treaty signed by America.
If only life were so simple eh?
You have just stated in it's entirety the whole idea of a nuclear deterrant, the notion that your enemy is daft enough to use it is the whole point of having it.
You also have to find a way around the S.A.L.T 1 treaty signed by America.
If only life were so simple eh?
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