Iraqi yob.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.express.co...spat-on-hero-s-medals

What would be an appropriate sentence for this sneering yob?

[Quinlad]

You're right - just family, not friends.

Only I thought we were playing the Tenuous Links to Heroism game.

[bobjugs12]

Gromit, as serving military it gives me great pleasure to point out that you are wrong :)

You are allowed, and in some cases (VC, GC, etc) encouraged to wear realtives gongs. You wear the medals of a relative on your right breats, and your medals on your left.

That is the way it is. The Grandson was perfectly correct in wearing of those gongs.

As for the Iraqi blokes defence, it's rubbish. How many of you can tell me the difference between an Op Telic medal, an Op Herrick medal, Op Southern Watch, Op Granby, Op Corporate or Op Banner. I know I couldn't and i've got some of those mentioned. He had no way of knowing whether the Grandson was wearing his old mans medals or ones he'd earned himself.

This was a good, old fashioned, unprovoked, assault. The reasons behind this are unknown, as every media outlet wants to provoke it's own little bit of paper-selling outrage.

As for the deportation, I actually agree. If you want to live in this country you obey the rules. If you cannot, then you go home.

[Oneeyedvic]

Should he have been wearing the medals? Not legally - morally questionable?

Should he be spat at? No, never.

Should it have gone to court? Yes, as opposed to a caution or on the spot fine.

Was the sentence proportional? Yes.

Is it comparable to other cases (eg spitting at a policeman?) Yes: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7465195.stm

Was the sentence enough for the likes of AOG etc? Presumably not.

[Oneeyedvic]

edit - apparently it is not wrong to wear the medals ON THE RIGHT BREAST for Remembrance day parades.

[sp1814]

AOG

What do you think a more appropriate sentence would be?

By the way - remember that student Philip Laing who urinated all over that war memorial last year?

Could you please explain why you remained silent over that, but felt that THIS case needed discussion?

I think I know why...but I'd be interested to hear why urine all over a memorial is that much less significant than spit on medals.

[bobjugs12]

EK

Congratulations on the funniest thing I have ever seen on t'internet.

PMSL

[sp1814]

EKnewsDS

You really have a Blue Peter badge?

I'm jealous.

And no - I'm not being sarcastic...I REALLY am jealous.

[Sandy-Wroe]

How did Mr Abdullah know that the man wearing the medals didn't actually win them himself? Perhaps he's an expert in this field.

[Quinlad]

And anyway, there's nothing wrong with parading your parents' accolades as if they're your own. Just ask Sir Stella McCartney.

[bobjugs12]

Ghetto Poet, your either a troll or a bit of a tool.

[piggynose]

ghetto poet, u have guts, do you also have a blue peter badge?

[ghetto poet]

why was my post removed? is it not politically correct to say that the british military and their families should be treated with the contempt they deserve. considering the atrocities the military commited in Iraq its understandable that this young man did what he did.

[birdie1971]

ghetto poet – I didn't see your earlier posts – they were removed. I can only presume that they were as equally moronic and nonsensical your latest post.

You ask, “... is it not politically correct to say that the British military and their families should be treated with the contempt they deserve. considering the atrocities the military committed in Iraq (?)...”

So you think that military personnel should be treated with contempt because the British Government sent them to a foreign country and ordered them to kill people?

What planet are you from?


You may object the the war in Afghanistan and Iraq and you're not alone. But don't blame the military – they didn't chose to go there. Blame the Government.

And as for treating the families of those serving in the armed forces with contempt... words fail me.

[bobjugs12]

Ghetto Poet, it was me that reported your post.

If you can explain to me why my 8 year old daughter should be treated with contempt because of my job I'd love to hear it.

As regards to the 'atrocities' commited in Iraq, yes mistake were made by some individuals but to tar the whole military with one brush shows idiocy beyond belief. Thats pretty much the same as me saying all kids on council estates are drug-taking murderers.
I nor any of my mates have ever committed any war crimes, nor have we raped, pilliaged or eaten live babies.

Have you ever been to Iraq? If you had, you'd know that the majority of the locals are not only happy we were there, but also grateful that we had removed Saddam from power. If your interested I can hapily tel you about instances when we have improved the lifes of locals in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

The same goes for Afghanistan, but on an even larger scale. The majority of Afghanis not only love our presence, but want even more troops.

If you continue to allow yourself to be led by ill informed media reports, half-truths, lies and prejudice then you are going to end up looking very silly my friend.

[Oneeyedvic]

///You may object the the war in Afghanistan and Iraq and you're not alone. But don't blame the military – they didn't chose to go there. Blame the Government. ///

I am not defending Ghetto Poet in any way, shape or form, but didn't the Nuremberg Trials say that the above was not a defence?