anti social behaviour....

[R1Geezer]

Is it much worse now or is it just reported more? It does seem like the former, not a day goes by that we don't hear of lowlives making someones life a misery. Why are we so bad at dealing with it? What has changed in young people that makes them repellant? To normal people they are almost like another species of animal to avoid or fear, what has gone wrong?

[anotheoldgit]

B00
The caller was mainly making a point when he mentioned Chidl'd Line, not to be taken literally, more of a time line.

But having said that, would you like to take the chance of Child-Line or any other authority taking the word of the child over yours?

[VHG]

>Being frightened has nothing to do with respect whatsoever.

I think AOG means frightened of getting caught and "told off" or taken to court

I am 60 years old, and when I was about 13 or 14 me and couple of mates were mucking around (nothing serious). The police came in a car and took us back to the station to interview us.

I was scared stiff and the policeman said to one of his colleagues "book him" and I burst into tears.

I had a respect for the police and others in authority (so was frightened off what may happen to me).

Nowadays you hear of kids throwing bricks at police cars and fire engines and ambulances. What sort of behaviour is that, it is anarchy.

So they have no fear. Even if they are caught they know the authorities are almost powerless.

[B00]

AOG- yes, i would, and I have!

I rememer when my eldest was about 12 or 13, and throwing a major tantrum over something or other I wouldn't let her do and she uttered the immortal "I'm gonna phone Child Line- you're horrible to me", I handed the phone to her and told her to go ahead, or did she want I make it easier and i dialled them for her?

I may not have been or still may not be the best parent in the world AOG, but I do my best, and I know that should anyone call Child Line (or social services etc) about me, i've nothing whatsoever to be afraid of.

[LoftyLottie]

I see what you mean. However, if fear is the only thing that keeps kids from doing wrong, this surely can't be right? They have to grow up knowing the difference between right and wrong and this should come from the home. Some of these kids don't stand a chance.

[joko]

i must admit, i am only 38, an i seem to remember most of us being generally 'fearful' of authority - not 'respectful' but always afraid of 'getting done' - mostly by teachers etc
i was quite naughty at school...or so i thought...nothing compared to today though..i mean i was disruptive, cheeky, uncaring, maybe wrote on a few desks etc but more in a playful way if you get me...but now there seems to be a sinister and spiteful element from kids towards authority...they know the rules and want to cause them real and serious pain, ie accusations, abuse, threats, lawsuits etc...

we had no internet then and i think kids now have no fear due to knowledge.

[ummmm]

It is fear Lofty. I was scared of letting my parents down. Scared of the consequences.

[B00]

Another example of bringing children up knowing right from wrong...

There's a little boy in my daughters class (all of them 4/5 years old) and within the first week of them being there last September, he'd mooned the teacher! Now I, to myself and with in conversation with my hubby, wondered where the hell this child had a) even learnt that from and b) where his respect for the teacher was?

My daughter, who was 4 at the time, when telling me about it (and later his own mother told me too), was laughing about but even at that age knew it was wrong.

[LoftyLottie]

I think the spiteful element is transmitted to the kids via their parents Joko. These kids are shouted at and sworn at, slapped by the parents and never actually communicated with. The parents have no respect for authority, so neither do the kids.

[madmaggot]

Boo the difference is that when I was at school if any child had 'mooned' they would have had it spanked! Now the teachers daren't touch them.
If I went home and said I had been told off at school I would have been punished at home as well! My parents certainly would not have marched down to the school to attack the teacher as often happens now.

[LoftyLottie]

ummm, I was never fearful of my parents, but I did respect them. I was no angel!

[anotheoldgit]

/// I was never frightened of anybody when I was young. Certainly not my parents, police, teachers.///

I knew some would take me up on the word "Frightened" I do not mean this word to be taken literally, as most of you are quite aware.

Perhaps in forethought knowing some on this site using the word frightened was not the word to use.

I was also brought up to respect policemen etc. but if I was caught by the local policeman, stepping that one inch out of line, (perhaps something that nowadays wouldn't raise an eyebrow) then I was "CONCERNED"

Yes concerned that he might tell my parents, they who would be equally concerned that the Policeman had reported me to them, and me equally concerned yet again, that my parents now knew.

[ummmm]

I was loftie....even though I was rarely smacked. Just the look of disappointment on their faces was enough to stop me being naughty. I suppose that could be because they taught me respect.

[LoftyLottie]

Well, we rarely see policemen any more where I live, just community support officers and quite honestly they do not act in a way that encourages respect.

I was taught that I should always approach a policeman if I was frightened, etc. so I did! My friends and I were once escorted to a bus stop by a kindly policeman because we were being antagnised by a gang of youths (back in the early 60's!). He saw us safely onto our bus. Can you imagine that happening now days.

AOG, so you knew that the likes of me would take you up on the word 'frightened'! Rubbish!! However, concerned is a far better word. Thankyou.

[milliezoe]

Its down to the old adage children learn what they live !!!!!!!

[ummmm]

My son had gone to the park and didn't come home. I went looking for him. There was a policeman in the park. He drove me round the park looking for him. Took me home to make sure he hadn't come back back before he put a description out. Very helpful....

My son was at home when I got back....

[B00]

Yes but Eddie, would you have thrown those fireworks at other people intending to hurt them? Or pushed them through letterboxes?