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Earlier this year, this un-funny comic, made a joke on Down's Syndrome sufferers which caused outrage at the time, but strangely he received plenty of support from some on this site.
After this latest so called "topical joke" (which to me was once again totally insensitive), will the same people who supported him last time, (and who would condemn any comedian for telling a racist joke), be prepared to support him once again?
Earlier this year, this un-funny comic, made a joke on Down's Syndrome sufferers which caused outrage at the time, but strangely he received plenty of support from some on this site.
After this latest so called "topical joke" (which to me was once again totally insensitive), will the same people who supported him last time, (and who would condemn any comedian for telling a racist joke), be prepared to support him once again?
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Bernard Manning of whom I was never a fan. once summed up the comedians art as:
"if you tell a joke and you don't offend someone your not telling it right"
Once upon a time televison actualy reflected society warts and all. When Love thy neighbour was being screened there were many people who attacked and villified it.
People in the 70's new what a racist was and we all know what the argument was for screening this and 'til death us do part.
TV today is sanitised fantasy but if Nick Griffin can still be allowed on TV to spout then Frankie Boyle can as well.
If Frankie Boyle offends enough people then they won't buy tickets to see him and he will fade from view but until he does, we live in a true Democracy and he can say what he likes.
"if you tell a joke and you don't offend someone your not telling it right"
Once upon a time televison actualy reflected society warts and all. When Love thy neighbour was being screened there were many people who attacked and villified it.
People in the 70's new what a racist was and we all know what the argument was for screening this and 'til death us do part.
TV today is sanitised fantasy but if Nick Griffin can still be allowed on TV to spout then Frankie Boyle can as well.
If Frankie Boyle offends enough people then they won't buy tickets to see him and he will fade from view but until he does, we live in a true Democracy and he can say what he likes.
I remember 'Love Thy Neighbour' and loathed it, not because it was 'racist' but because it wasn't funny. The 'novelty' of a racist black man wore off after about three minutes, but they went on flogging it week after week.
'Till Death us Do Part' was far better, with far better drawn characters, excellent writing, and the matchless comedy timing of Dandy Nicholls.
Times and humour do change - as does what is acceptable. I am with Dave, I have a very dark sense of humour, and do appreciate humour where none is immediately apparent.
Jimmy Carr sums it up - he likes a laugh followed by a gasp, as though his audience have found him funny, but are appalled at themselves because of it.
'Till Death us Do Part' was far better, with far better drawn characters, excellent writing, and the matchless comedy timing of Dandy Nicholls.
Times and humour do change - as does what is acceptable. I am with Dave, I have a very dark sense of humour, and do appreciate humour where none is immediately apparent.
Jimmy Carr sums it up - he likes a laugh followed by a gasp, as though his audience have found him funny, but are appalled at themselves because of it.
That's funny Zehul if Joeluke is not retarded, if he is then that's mean. (If I have it wrong, forgive me, I've skim read)
I agree with you Oldgit there is a line before a joke becomes insensitive. Freedom of speech is one thing but using that freedom to take the p!ss out of the vulnerable - in reference to the Down Syndrome joke - is another. People of all sexes and races may joke about their own colour, culture, education etc but educate me as to whether a disabled person mocks their own disability?
I agree with you Oldgit there is a line before a joke becomes insensitive. Freedom of speech is one thing but using that freedom to take the p!ss out of the vulnerable - in reference to the Down Syndrome joke - is another. People of all sexes and races may joke about their own colour, culture, education etc but educate me as to whether a disabled person mocks their own disability?
Kromovaracun
/// I'm pretty sure you can still find similarly good singing and dancing, or is just not the same without the makeup?///
One could still find ordinary dressed individuals taking part in slap-stick, slightly funny, but it would not be as funny as a person with a made-up face, and dressed in baggy trousers, a wig, and a red nose
The Clown makes the atmosphere, just as a group of men dressed in white aprons make 'Barbershop Singers' and so did the make-up of the classical 'Minstrel' entertainer.
Nothing in the least racist only in the minds of the political correct brigade.
If a black group wanted to make-up their faces as white people, do you think for one moment any white person would find it offensive, or even have it banned if it came to that?
/// I'm pretty sure you can still find similarly good singing and dancing, or is just not the same without the makeup?///
One could still find ordinary dressed individuals taking part in slap-stick, slightly funny, but it would not be as funny as a person with a made-up face, and dressed in baggy trousers, a wig, and a red nose
The Clown makes the atmosphere, just as a group of men dressed in white aprons make 'Barbershop Singers' and so did the make-up of the classical 'Minstrel' entertainer.
Nothing in the least racist only in the minds of the political correct brigade.
If a black group wanted to make-up their faces as white people, do you think for one moment any white person would find it offensive, or even have it banned if it came to that?
///Nothing in the least racist ///
The 'classical (sic) minstrel' originated as an American entertainment in the 19th century performed by white people in blackface;
wikipaedia
<Minstrel shows lampooned black people as ignorant, lazy, buffoonish, superstitious, joyous, and musical>
So nothing racist there!!! Unless you're a silly old git obviously.
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The 'classical (sic) minstrel' originated as an American entertainment in the 19th century performed by white people in blackface;
wikipaedia
<Minstrel shows lampooned black people as ignorant, lazy, buffoonish, superstitious, joyous, and musical>
So nothing racist there!!! Unless you're a silly old git obviously.
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