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More budget......cash for aliens!
Ok pretty good mostly but Osborne said the only 2 things that are ring fenced are healh, fair enough and sm3gging foriegn aid! Perlease, how fair up sh1t creek do we need to get before we stop dolling out cash to ungrateful foriegners? F_F_S Osborne you're a Tory get your priorities right!
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"Tralafgar Square roundabout being circled by 40 motorbikes. Their flag says "Riders Against Tory Stealth Taxes."
I think a lot of Tories are feeling like they've been betrayed.
Spare Ed
"Tralafgar Square roundabout being circled by 40 motorbikes. Their flag says "Riders Against Tory Stealth Taxes."
I think a lot of Tories are feeling like they've been betrayed.
Spare Ed
If only that was true jno . So many remain charity cases for ever and those that don't go round the corner where they can buy something cheaper. That's why some aid is in the form of goods because if its money the recipients spend it on Chinese products.
This is understandable but Aid does not automatically lead to UK Trade. It doesn't even generate much goodwill. In the UN agencies the undeveloped nations of the world almost invariability vote against us.
This is understandable but Aid does not automatically lead to UK Trade. It doesn't even generate much goodwill. In the UN agencies the undeveloped nations of the world almost invariability vote against us.
That's right Baz - don't even try to argue the point you'll only show yourself up.
Come on Geezer - what was it the Jesuits say "Give me a boy till he's 7 and I'll give you the man"
Putting aside what gets taught in Madarassas in some of these places
You're some local tribesman and someone comes preeching the evils of the west
your child is being taught to read and write in a school provided by a western charity
Your father's cataracts were treated by a flying hospital
Water pumps for you village came from Western red cross workers
This is not naivity it's simple common sense and History
Look at what happened to Germany after the Treaty of Versaille
Now look what happened after WWII
The difference is that huge amounts of reconstruction money was pumped in with the Marshall plan
Come on Geezer - what was it the Jesuits say "Give me a boy till he's 7 and I'll give you the man"
Putting aside what gets taught in Madarassas in some of these places
You're some local tribesman and someone comes preeching the evils of the west
your child is being taught to read and write in a school provided by a western charity
Your father's cataracts were treated by a flying hospital
Water pumps for you village came from Western red cross workers
This is not naivity it's simple common sense and History
Look at what happened to Germany after the Treaty of Versaille
Now look what happened after WWII
The difference is that huge amounts of reconstruction money was pumped in with the Marshall plan
No?
Well I'll give you some facts and figures then and we'll see who's talking Tosh
The aid you're talking about was called operation Salam and amounted to $650 Million or about $20 per head of population
yeah flooding the place with cash
That is roughly the same as the money that went to Germany in 1949 - Without adjusting for 45 years of inflation.
Next time you want to accuse me of talking tosh - I suggest you do your homework first!
Well I'll give you some facts and figures then and we'll see who's talking Tosh
The aid you're talking about was called operation Salam and amounted to $650 Million or about $20 per head of population
yeah flooding the place with cash
That is roughly the same as the money that went to Germany in 1949 - Without adjusting for 45 years of inflation.
Next time you want to accuse me of talking tosh - I suggest you do your homework first!
It was not the Marshal Plan that resurrected Germany it was the ability and leadership of the Germans to rebuild their nation . It is that lack of leadership and a benefit mentality that is holding back these underdeveloped nations.
You can pump in as much aid as you like but without that will to change nothing ever will.
You can pump in as much aid as you like but without that will to change nothing ever will.
There's a good article in the Telegraph.co.uk under comment - personal view by Alec Van Gelder people should look at.
It's a discussion about the current 0.7% GDP spent on foreign aid and whether that figure should be closer to 0.05%. The worrying thing is if a Bill is passed making the 0.7% a legal requirement.
Another article in telegraph also states that there is plenty of evidence suggesting that aid does not work and actually causes poverty.
Is it the actual aid though or the none accountability of it?
Aid goes towards building the economic infrastructure, houses, schools, improved utilities, buy's medical supplies and treatment, food and to prevent immigration etc.
The unaccountable side is the corruption of public officials who personally enrichment themselves, it is the diversion of aid to military and nuclear supplies.
It's a discussion about the current 0.7% GDP spent on foreign aid and whether that figure should be closer to 0.05%. The worrying thing is if a Bill is passed making the 0.7% a legal requirement.
Another article in telegraph also states that there is plenty of evidence suggesting that aid does not work and actually causes poverty.
Is it the actual aid though or the none accountability of it?
Aid goes towards building the economic infrastructure, houses, schools, improved utilities, buy's medical supplies and treatment, food and to prevent immigration etc.
The unaccountable side is the corruption of public officials who personally enrichment themselves, it is the diversion of aid to military and nuclear supplies.
jake-the-peg
you are nothing but a simplistic leftie apologist, and as previous experience has shown people like you arent worth the trouble or time to argue with.
people like you love nothing better than to make a simple matter complicated.
fact : the UK is in severe debt, so giving money away to other countries is totally illogical, not to mention stupid and a total waste, when it could be put to far better use here in the UK.
foriegn aid is just a another way you lefties salve your own consiences to get a feel-good-factor "oh look at me I help the poor in Africa or wherever"
you are nothing but a simplistic leftie apologist, and as previous experience has shown people like you arent worth the trouble or time to argue with.
people like you love nothing better than to make a simple matter complicated.
fact : the UK is in severe debt, so giving money away to other countries is totally illogical, not to mention stupid and a total waste, when it could be put to far better use here in the UK.
foriegn aid is just a another way you lefties salve your own consiences to get a feel-good-factor "oh look at me I help the poor in Africa or wherever"
"just a little curious as to why overseas aid seems to be so important, I mean I could understand it from Noo Labour but the Tories"
Geezer "aid" is payments by us to further our influence in other countries and promote our business interests in/with those countries - guess Tories see it as investment rather than charity - with most investments making returns over time.
Geezer "aid" is payments by us to further our influence in other countries and promote our business interests in/with those countries - guess Tories see it as investment rather than charity - with most investments making returns over time.
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