Hague Banditry news item.....

[R1Geezer]

It seems this is all based on the fact that they once shared a twin room. So are 2 people of the same sex sharing a room now deemed Gay by default?

[Count-A-Strong]

He might offer to take them up the Khyber Pass rov.

[sp1814]

R1Geezer

No I couldn't. There are some characteristics which make you think, "Ah, he's probably gay" or "She's probably straight", but these are based on old stereotypes. I doubt very much that upon having a drink with Gareth Thomas in a bar in Cardiff after a match you would've walked away thinking, "He's gay".

[ummmm]

R1...some do..some don't. I think that's how Sqad spots them. He'll miss the ones that don't.

[Sqad]

R1Geezer....read what i have written, not your interpretation of what I have written.

I did NOT say all gays look/walk like that....they don´t.

But you have failed to answer my question....the example that i described, would you put your months pay on him being gay?

[Sqad]

sp1814
, <<<but these are based on old stereotypes<<<

Many of these "old stereotypes" hold good for many present Gays.

ummmm...you are correct, I would miss the "covert" Gays.

[Sqad]

doc...LOL..........but true.

[ummmm]

So would I Sqad....and I have a few manly gays in my family. They, however, can spot them a mile off.

[Answerprancer]

...yes, but most don't.

[Answerprancer]

(stand out a mile)

[Count-A-Strong]

There's a young lad goes in our local who's affectations are very 'Larry Graysonesque' and he's openly gay. I was talking to him one night about another lad who'd come in who was gay. I asked him whether he was his 'type' to which he replied 'Oooh NO, he's FAR too camp!' very funny.

[Sqad]

Count...LOL

[Answerprancer]

I think most homophobes 'like to think' that all gay men are mincing flamers and it confuses them when they find ones that seem like just ordinary geezer blokes.

[R1Geezer]

In your example sqad, I'd say there's a good chance. I'm little suprised though that rather than answer a serious question or better still keep quiet you chose to try and ridicule me for seeking clarification, in this case mainly from a known gay, ie SP. for example Gareth Thomas is the last person I'd expect to be gay but I just wondered if another gay could spot one by certain mannerisms etc that would be missed by the straight person. See I try to enter into a sensible discussion and I get agro!

[Sqad]

answerprancer........NO..........what makes you think that?

[craft1948]

My mother never recovered from Rock Hudson being outed.........

[Kromovaracun]

"I think it was a tactical error to release the statement. Yes, the rumours were circulating on the net, but so what? Over the past few years, there have been loads of Internet based rumours which eventually die out when they run out of steam. By going on record to deny the rumours, he himself has made it a national story"

I think this argument lacks empathy.

Rumours don't consistently buzz around for years - they crop up and down in the media again and again. The last time they did so was, as you point out, years ago. But I think there's a few important differences now. As Hague said in his statement, I can well believe that it's simply very frustrating to know that the press are spreading seedy rumours about you. Combine that with the stress of being in high office for the first time and with the fact that he says the couple have recently lost another pregnancy. The man does have the right to try and counter the public rumors in a public way - which he's done convincingly.

[rov1200]

No problem for Haque. Cameron has just announced he is standing 100% behing him.

[Kromovaracun]

"I just wondered if another gay could spot one by certain mannerisms etc that would be missed by the straight person."

Nah.

I guess there are a few signals gay guys can give out when they're trying to get noticed, but that's not really the same thing.

[Answerprancer]

...thew fact that YOU answered that rather quicky for one !