Honour killing?

[anotheoldgit]

http://tinyurl.com/33vmvkr

What a horribly savage death to be carried out on this poor girl and her unborn child.

Almost certainly this was yet another 'honour killing'.

A rich diversity of cultures?????

This is one that has no place in our civilised society.

[RATTER15]

Muslim again, no doubt.

[sp1814]

Absolutely agree.

Being burnt to death is the worst kind of killing possible and the fact that she was pregnant at the time makes it all the worse.

Well done for finding the honour killing angle too, based on the scant evidence in the story.

That makes the tragic story all the more disgusting

[anneasquith]

do we know yet it is an "honour killing " ?

[tamborine]

Life maybe cheap in the sub-continent but they'll learn different here.

[squarebear]

Where does this say it was an honour killing?
Seems like you know something that the police don't. A bit suspicious if you ask me.

[jake-the-peg]

Coronors courts investigations are such a waste of time aren't they?

All you need is a few right minded people armed with dollops of common sense and the latest copy of the Mail

[sp1814]

anneasquith

AOG says 'almost certainly this was yet another honour killing', and that's good enough for me...even though the strory states that she lived with her husband, mother-in-law and two sisters-in-laws and rarely ever went out.

I'm with AOG on this...she probably got pregnant by someone other than her husband and err...umm...AOG - can you help me out. I don't have the same psychic abilities that you enjoy.

[anneasquith]

well, thats fine no need for any media input or courts, the answer is on ab.

[jake-the-peg]

Well the mail helps here:

Note the headline is "woman dies after being set on fire" not "after fire" or "after catching fire"

There is the implication (implied although not certain) in that expression that it was a deliberate act by someone

They didn't repeat the Police phrase of "a woman was found alight" they used their own

Weasel words from the Mail - who'd have thought it ?

[anotheoldgit]

Not, 'this was a honour killing' as some have exaggeratedly stated, what I actually said was "almost certainly"

Consider the evidence,

/// Miss Kahn also said some neighbours had told her that a group of around five men were seen coming out of the house around the same time as the incident happened ///

There have been many such killings committed, one can assume
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But perhaps I am wrong and she set fire to herself lighting a ciggie?

[anotheoldgit]

I've had another thought about this, perhaps it was a case of 'Spontaneous human combustion'?

[WShee9]

SP1814-Possibly immigrants starting up another new business-Murder Inc...?

[boxtops]

I'm keeping an open mind about this - we don't know what happened. She came to this country to be married, it could be that even though she was living with her husband's family, she was desperately miserable and committed suicide, and fire was the only way she could find. It doesn't sound as if she had much opportunity for "a bit on the side" - so who knows. Let us not make judgements yet. If this was a white woman on fire, name of Mary Smith, it would still be a hideous story, but there is no mention of honour killing - yet - from the authorities. May her God rest her soul, and that of her baby, whatever it was.

[boxtops]

Here's another version of the same story, suggesting she is a young teenager. http://www.bbc.co.uk/...st-yorkshire-11548859

Maybe someone who had no choice about her marriage, didn't actually like the husband, saw no other way out. The comments websites are all saying exactly what we are saying here - don't jump to conclusions, why is the fact that she is Asian mentioned? - oh, must be honour killing - let's wait for the result of the post mortem before we start making our own conclusions.

[Mosaic]

Sadly, the number of times 'unsatisfactory' brides get burned to death in 'accidents' is still widespread in backwoods-born south Asian groups. I can't pick out from this news clipping whether this is NOT being viewed by local police as, to say the least, suspicious. But proving anything will depend on the evidence, and in most similar instances this is the scenario: nobody saw anything, very few understand the questions they are asked, any independent witnesses are obvious racists who've been out to get the accused for years, and there were never any 'five men'.
Go on, call me a racist for mentioning this, but not discussing it for fear of such accusations means innocent women still get killed, murderers get away with it, and police / medical time is occupied.
And guess who foots the cost in the end.

[boxtops]

Mosaic, the BBC story says that the police are treating it as "suspicious", but they have to, unless it's proved to be self-inflicted.

[Mosaic]

Thanks Boxy, a bit early in the day for detailed reading on my part.

[anotheoldgit]

boxtops

/// why is the fact that she is Asian mentioned? ///

Are you somehow suggesting that this fact should haver been censored from the news report?

According to the statements from her neighbours, I think the fact that she was Asian would have been very hard to hide.

/// "I've heard she's an Asian lady and I don't think her parents are in this country," she said. "We're all Asians round here but she never came out the house." ///

/// ‘She lived with her husband’s family who brought her over from Pakistan eight or nine months ago.’ ///

[joko]

maybe its fake...and shes escaped and ensured no-one ever comes looking for her....