Unprofessional behaviour of Police Marksman.

[Gromit]

The Police marksman who shot and killed banker Mark Sauders apparently inserted Duran Duran and Barbara Streisand song title into his testimony at at hearing into the banker's death.

That's just blatant contempt and insensitivity.

http://www.dailymail....-evidence-claims.html

How does someone so daft get to carry a gun?

[eyethenkyew]

There were allegedly at least several Officers who fired at this drunken, armed danger to the public, therefore what is the point of this post? Perhaps he ought to have bared his chest to Saunders and dared him to shoot?

It does not take anything away from the fact that a dangerous individual armed with a lethal weapon brought about his own downfall, not the later revelation that one of the Officers involved was deemed by those wise in hindsight to be deemed "unprofessional" or "insensitive".

[redcrx]

"But during his evidence he said several phrases, including 'first time' a hit by Robin Beck and 'enough is enough', the subtitle of hit single No More Tears by Barbra Streisand ([pictured).
Also included in his testimony were the phrases 'point of no return', a Duran Duran hit, and 'line of fire', recorded by rock band Journey"

such phrases must have stood out a mile, well done to whoever spotted those obscure phrases.

[jake-the-peg]

Eh?

What are you on about eyethenkyew?

The nature of the crime really isn't the issue.

It could have been teenage shoplifting - having policemen show this sort of unprofessionality with regard to court evidence is shocking.

However you'll always get the odd bad apple in an organisation as large as the Police. Providing that it's not widespread and that it's dealt with properly and seen to be dealt with properly that's the most important thing

[Gromit]

Eyethenkyou

You seem happy for this policeman to take the p*ss (if that is proven) out of bereaving relatives at what was a senstive hearing. It is a grave misjudgement, and we deserve better from an officer in such a responsible job.

It shows arogance and contempt for the public.

[sandyRoe]

I agree with Gromit. To behave like that an an inquest shows incredibly bad taste and poor judgement.

[eyethenkyew]

I can't believe any bleeding heart coming on here, never having faced as much as a kid with a water pistol, let alone someone armed with a lethal firearm, pretending to be all indignant and outraged at someone who has stared death in the face later displaying what can at worst be described as flippancy.

No doubt the same bleeding hearts were those who placed the cold blooded murderer Raoul Moat on a pedastal following his well deserved demise at his own hands? Get into the real world and stop this totally unconvincing and mock wrist wringing.

We have our servicemen and women being slaughtered on an almost daily basis and I'm sure their murderers are not wracked with guilt and remorse afterwards? This Officer is to be praised for having put his life on the line in serving the public by confronting a drunken desperado who gave him and his colleagues absolutely no option but to take his life in order to save others. Give him a medal.

[jackthehat]

Has no-one ever uttered *any* of those phrases outside of singing along to the songs in question ?

Are these statements really so hard to believe ? (made up by me, I hasten to add)
"The first time Mr Saunders was asked to put his gun down, there was no response."
" When Mr Sauders levelled his rifle and shot towards the armed officers I thought 'enough is enough' and that we had probably reached 'the point of no return'"
" There were several officers within 'the line of fire' of Mr Saunders shotgun"

I would have been more surprised *not* to have heard them especially with reference to a GUN incident.

[Zeuhl]

Absolutely right Eyethankyew

Anyone who has put their life on the line is perfectly entitled to go into court and take the p1ss.

They have a tough job and if they can enjoy a bit of a laugh by playing a game at the inquest good luck to 'em that's what i say.

I expect the dead lawyer's widow and parents are going to start blubbing about this but hey - the bloke deserved it - they should just lighten up.
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[jake-the-peg]

You seem to be one of those peope eyethankyou that seem to think that the good work the police do entitles them to behave however they like.

Yes you faced down a gunman - please feel free to take the p1ss out of the court in return - feel the urge to moon the judge - go right ahead - why don't you help yourself to petty cash

You're a police man the rules that apply to the bleeding hearts don't apply to you

Is that it? You living in Sweeny-land? Seen too many episodes of Life on Mars perhaps?

[redcrx]

exactly JTH, they are all common enough phrases

[jno]

hey, what's wrong with a little singsong during an inquest over a man shot dead? Lightens the mood, like.

[ludwig]

Bearing in mind it's only alleged at this point, but if it's true, it's incredible that some people seem to think it's ok. You tw!t eythenkyew. It's nothing to do with being a bleeding heart, what complete t0ss you are talking.

[eyethenkyew]

Honestly, I really, really pity the poor deluded, naive individuals on here who have clearly had extremely sheltered upbringings. Let's see now:

1: Who instigated that incident in the first place? Must have been the Police, eh?
2: Who was as drunk as a skunk? The Police?
3: Who was out of control in a building with a loaded shotgun? The Police?
4: Who was taking random pot shots from the windows at passers by? The Police?
5: Who refused point blank to listen to reason? The Police?
6: Who did not care what happened to anyone else that day? The Police?
7: Who ought just to have ignored the whole life threatening incident? The Police?
8: Who should have abandoned innocent members of the public? The Police?
9: Who did not care about innocent members of the public? The Police?

That's right, don't bother one iota about the lives put at risk that day, but instead get mortally offended at subsequent flippancy by one of those whose life was put on the line that day by a paralytic gunman who eventually got his come uppance. So, instead of pulling your hair out over a minor flaw in a Police Officer, try pointing the finger at the only villain of the piece in this whole sorry saga.

[Zeuhl]

What a Winker!

[Zeuhl]

Though there are serious questions about the competence of the operation in question, let's put that aside as it is not the question here - a detail eyethankyew seems incapable of appreciating.

The question here is: Why does doing a good job on points 1-9 entitle officers to disrespect our legal institutions and processes?
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[ludwig]

It's got nothing to do with whether the man was lawfully killed or not you simpleton.
He's already paid the price for his actions - What else do you think we should do - dig him up and shoot him again?
This question is about whether it was right for a police officer to take the p out of the court proceedings in a serious case.

[ABerrant]

Suffice it to say, this "minor flaw in a Police Officer" has instigated an Independent Police Complaints Commission managed investigation by the Metropolitan Police Directorate of Professional Standards because the Met take this seriously even when Trolls do not.

[Zeuhl]

I think the officer should lose points for not mentioning 'Boom Bang A Bang' by the lovely Lulu.
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[Hazel104]

He was in a court room, in a professional capacity and should act as such.

Why is that so difficult to grasp Eyethenkyew?

[LeMarchand]

Not only did he insert song titles and swear during his testimony (whilst reporting what colleagues said at the time) - he worked for the Police, a clear reference to the band that had a number of hits including "Message in a Bottle".

I think Gromit might be in on it too, he says "shot" (Bon Jovi - shot through the heart, and you're to blame: you give love a bad name), "a gun" (Aerosmith - Annie's Got a Gun) and is obviously a fan of Daft Punk, not to mention "The Empire Strikes Back" ("into his testimony AT AT")!