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http://www.bbc.co.uk/...and-cornwall-11839816
"Paedophile ring in Cornwall abused at least 30 girls"
Have I missed AOG's posting on this or doesn't it fit with his "Why is it once again, that groups of either Asians or blacks are involved in such cases as this one? " views http://www.theanswerb...Question961497-4.html ?
"Paedophile ring in Cornwall abused at least 30 girls"
Have I missed AOG's posting on this or doesn't it fit with his "Why is it once again, that groups of either Asians or blacks are involved in such cases as this one? " views http://www.theanswerb...Question961497-4.html ?
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Kromovaracun
/// why do you consider people attacking you tantamount to censure? ///
Obviously, I do not expect people to agree with me all the time, that is what this forum is all about, a person picks a particular news story then adds his or hers comments.
The problem on this particular site I always seem to pick a news item that some would not like to be aired, so in their bid to try and restrain me they will continue to aim insults etc at me, hoping to stifle free speech.
/// why do you consider people attacking you tantamount to censure? ///
Obviously, I do not expect people to agree with me all the time, that is what this forum is all about, a person picks a particular news story then adds his or hers comments.
The problem on this particular site I always seem to pick a news item that some would not like to be aired, so in their bid to try and restrain me they will continue to aim insults etc at me, hoping to stifle free speech.
AOG
I refer you again to this link which was posted yesterday.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/...and-cornwall-11839816
Where does it report the colour or ethnicity of these vile people?
I refer you again to this link which was posted yesterday.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/...and-cornwall-11839816
Where does it report the colour or ethnicity of these vile people?
AOG
I think we can all agree that the crimes carried out by the gang you refer to were absolutely horrific. However what me and several others are trying to put to you is that you're a hypocrite.
I'm going to try to get this out of you one more time...what has the race of the gang got to do with it. You posted:
"Why is it once again, that groups of either Asians or blacks are involved in such cases as this one?"
Would you EVER post a question when a pedophile ring is caught thus:
Why is it once again, that groups of white mene are involved in such cases as this one?
I think we can all agree that the crimes carried out by the gang you refer to were absolutely horrific. However what me and several others are trying to put to you is that you're a hypocrite.
I'm going to try to get this out of you one more time...what has the race of the gang got to do with it. You posted:
"Why is it once again, that groups of either Asians or blacks are involved in such cases as this one?"
Would you EVER post a question when a pedophile ring is caught thus:
Why is it once again, that groups of white mene are involved in such cases as this one?
sp1814
I will try once again, but it appears you only want to hear the answer you want to hear, so no matter how I try you still won't accept my answer, but here goes for the last time.
If there had been an increase in these most vile crimes, and it showed that they were being committed by predominately white males, then of course I would point it out.
But since it seems that these crimes are increasingly being committed by Asians in this case or blacks as in the number of past horrific gang rapes, I felt the need to post my question.
/// If this was a one-off, it would be deeply troubling indeed. The reality is, it’s not. Many schoolgirls — one just eight — living in towns and cities all over the north of England are falling prey to gangs who groom them to be sex slaves for themselves or other men.///
This is a passage from the Mail's special report, I referred to earlier.
Others have posted the horrific paedophile ring in Cornwall in an attempt to lower the severity of those committed by the numerous Asian gangs, but fortunately (although singularly just as bad) this is an isolated case, that should be discussed in it's own context.
I will try once again, but it appears you only want to hear the answer you want to hear, so no matter how I try you still won't accept my answer, but here goes for the last time.
If there had been an increase in these most vile crimes, and it showed that they were being committed by predominately white males, then of course I would point it out.
But since it seems that these crimes are increasingly being committed by Asians in this case or blacks as in the number of past horrific gang rapes, I felt the need to post my question.
/// If this was a one-off, it would be deeply troubling indeed. The reality is, it’s not. Many schoolgirls — one just eight — living in towns and cities all over the north of England are falling prey to gangs who groom them to be sex slaves for themselves or other men.///
This is a passage from the Mail's special report, I referred to earlier.
Others have posted the horrific paedophile ring in Cornwall in an attempt to lower the severity of those committed by the numerous Asian gangs, but fortunately (although singularly just as bad) this is an isolated case, that should be discussed in it's own context.
AOG - no no no. My posting on the Cornish article is not to "downgrade" the Asian gang reports, only to demonstrate that the indigenous population is just as culpable - each is as bad as the other, I don't care what colour or creed they are. Get the point - as the percentage of people of other colours and ethnic backgrounds rises in any country, the number of crimes committed by them will surely increase. I don't give a t*ss what background any of these perpetrators are, it's their evil crimes which are being reported - making out that it's principally any Asian trait is twisting the facts. IMO.
boxtops
Your excuse regarding percentages doesn't really hold true.
/// as the percentage of people of other colours and ethnic backgrounds rises in any country, the number of crimes committed by them will surely increase.///
This statement on the face of it is just common sense, reading it as written, but what it fails to tell one is the fact that if should tell of the number of these types of crimes, taken as a percentage against the number of Asians in the country.
And then also compare the number of these crimes carried out by whites also taken as a percentage, it would prove there seems to be a greater problem concerning Asians.
We are talking of course of multi gang rapes and Asian multi paedophile rings as in this case.
Perhaps in one way it doesn't matter what section of the community commits these types of crimes, agreed, but if we can find why certain groups against other groups commit these types of crime, surely it goes along way to find out how we can perhaps prevent some of them happening.
Your excuse regarding percentages doesn't really hold true.
/// as the percentage of people of other colours and ethnic backgrounds rises in any country, the number of crimes committed by them will surely increase.///
This statement on the face of it is just common sense, reading it as written, but what it fails to tell one is the fact that if should tell of the number of these types of crimes, taken as a percentage against the number of Asians in the country.
And then also compare the number of these crimes carried out by whites also taken as a percentage, it would prove there seems to be a greater problem concerning Asians.
We are talking of course of multi gang rapes and Asian multi paedophile rings as in this case.
Perhaps in one way it doesn't matter what section of the community commits these types of crimes, agreed, but if we can find why certain groups against other groups commit these types of crime, surely it goes along way to find out how we can perhaps prevent some of them happening.
AOG
Are you saying that the pedophile ring is an isolated case?
Do you not read the papers? Have you not heard of Operation Ore?
The hypocrisy grows ever more astonishing as time goes by.
If you want to pose a debate about certain crimes being the domain of certain races - fine...but whilst you're at it, please discuss the predominance of White males in paedophile rings.
You can't because your thrust is to only highlight cases where blacks and Asians are the wrong-doers.
It's not only me who thinks this.
Are you saying that the pedophile ring is an isolated case?
Do you not read the papers? Have you not heard of Operation Ore?
The hypocrisy grows ever more astonishing as time goes by.
If you want to pose a debate about certain crimes being the domain of certain races - fine...but whilst you're at it, please discuss the predominance of White males in paedophile rings.
You can't because your thrust is to only highlight cases where blacks and Asians are the wrong-doers.
It's not only me who thinks this.
sp1814
Oh! how you do go on.
Regarding Asians and paedophile rings, including child prostitution, I once again ask you to read the Mail's special report, which highlights the many such crimes and the growing concern.
No I haven't heard of Operation Ore? I do not specifically research all such crimes no matter what colour or ethnicity the perpetrators belong to.
But if you yourself find a need to highlight these cases, please feel free to follow another ABers suggestion, and post a question regarding them yourself, then myself and others may take the time to debate the issues.
Oh! how you do go on.
Regarding Asians and paedophile rings, including child prostitution, I once again ask you to read the Mail's special report, which highlights the many such crimes and the growing concern.
No I haven't heard of Operation Ore? I do not specifically research all such crimes no matter what colour or ethnicity the perpetrators belong to.
But if you yourself find a need to highlight these cases, please feel free to follow another ABers suggestion, and post a question regarding them yourself, then myself and others may take the time to debate the issues.
Fine - I accept your latest post as a frank admission of what I and countless others already know.
You're not a racist - however, the charge of hypocrisy could be laid at your door with certain justification.
If you can highlight crimes of a certain nature in one community but turn a blind eye to those carried out by your own 'brethren', then shame, shame, shame on you.
Terrible.
You're not a racist - however, the charge of hypocrisy could be laid at your door with certain justification.
If you can highlight crimes of a certain nature in one community but turn a blind eye to those carried out by your own 'brethren', then shame, shame, shame on you.
Terrible.
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