student protest

[sammmo]

watching the latest peaceful protest that the students are having today has made me wonder whatever happened to the water canons or tear gas or rubber bullets.. has this country got soft?

[Ankou]

tory headquarters? insurance payout.

police overtime - would be payable with or without water cannons.

[Sqad]

Dr Filth...?????....unbecoming of you.

[Sqad]

ankou.........and who do you think that the Insurance Companies would pass that onto?

[Ankou]

rising insurance premiums is a rather convoluted route to justifying water cannons sqad !

besides, they rise anyway.

[sammmo]

Its the tax payer paying for all of the above, and yet we have already forked out for the water canons so where are they..

[DrFilth]

jd_1984 i have been in football crowds leaving the ground when trouble has kicked off
the police come in some get a whack from a baton some get a fist in the face , the police take odd ones out and these people are charged
one person who i use to have a drink with got grabbed , the guy had not done anyting wrong but he was in the crowd
in court the police woud have you believe he nearly started world war 3

[Sqad]

ankou......maybe.......lets cut to the chase here.

The Bill to raise tuition fees will be passed.......the "peaceful" student demonstrations will peter out........Christmas will come .....and in the New Year all the fuss will be forgotten............in my opinion.

[Postdog]

If my hose would stretch I'd do it myself - especially those who were on camera breaking up the concrete from the barricades.

[uskybear]

amen!

[jd_1984]

It's a tough debate Dr Filth!
You hope that the police assess the situation and use reasonable force depending on how the situation is escalating. But, you have clearly experienced times that make you doubt this, fair enough.

[DrFilth]

Sqad read my post above , i have seen it first hand

leaving the match one day walking to the station next to some of the home fans , couple of blokes waking with a young lad talking . well the paper said they are like animals but i have not seen any trouble.
i turned round and said when you treat people like animals they will behave like animals

when i got to the station i get a whack across my back, shouted at and then pushed over to near the wall of the station . that was just to go and see a game of football

[Ankou]

point is though, in my view, that by the public at large watching these actions (daubing nelsons column, breaking things, smashing things up etc etc) and the police standing back and letting the world see it, is that joe public will begin to react against protestors - seeing their "protest" as mere opportunitistic mayhem and civil unrest with no real point other than to cause damage. this can be evidenced on many ab threads including this'un.

if the plods charged in on horses, or started firing bullets and using water cannons, the greater wider public would begin to have sympathy for the protesters, even if we thought they deserved a good hosing down.

just my view.

[Sqad]

Dr Filth....the behaviour of the police to you was inexcusable, but let us not be distracted from the theme of this post.....Student Protest.

[sammmo]

One policeman seriously injured because students don't want to pay for there education..They all have enough to pay for there gap year don't they?

[Sqad]

ankou.......maybe.

[jd_1984]

I have had some experience in security/marshalling of the public.
It never fails to suprise me how diffferent a set of events can be reported by two parties. You mostly find that somewhere in between the two stories lie the facts of the matter.
I have been accused of heavy handidnes in the past and it was totally fabricated. The guy was intoxicated and the matter never went further than initial allegations... suprise suprise.

[DTCwordfan]

with the cut backs, the Government can't afford the tear gas or rubber bullets.

No, it shouldn't be necessary as 95% plus of this is peaceful.

The issue is that the Government is not getting its message across........

However, I also feel that the UK seems to be gravitating to 3 or 4 different tuition systems is highly divisive and, to some extent highly confusing both for academia and gown.

[DrFilth]

Sqad i would have to go on the mature student march

[sammmo]

just heard its been passed by the government.. they can all go home now can't they..dry as a bone..

[Sqad]

Dr Filth.....LOL is that the same as the Geriatric Protest March?

Put me down for one seat on the coach.