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Sex offenders 'rights'
They should stay on the register for life
'Only individuals sentenced to more than 30 months for a sex-related crime are required to register with police for life'
Anyone sentenced to 30 months+ has obviously committed a serious sex crime
Sex offenders rights? What about the rights of their victims? They have to live with what was done to them for the rest of their lives, they don't have the option to 'de-register'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12476979
'Only individuals sentenced to more than 30 months for a sex-related crime are required to register with police for life'
Anyone sentenced to 30 months+ has obviously committed a serious sex crime
Sex offenders rights? What about the rights of their victims? They have to live with what was done to them for the rest of their lives, they don't have the option to 'de-register'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12476979
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No..it's not justification. Far from it in my opinion....but they deserve a chance. I worked at a hospital, they were too mentally ill to go to prison. I also worked with victims of the same crimes who cut themselves to shreds.
One girl...was raped by her father and his mates from as young as she could remember. She used to wipe her menstrual blood and feces on people. This stems from the fact that once she started her periods they started anally raping her.
She ended up there for treatment for her mental health. Others ended up there for repeating what had been done to them.
It's not so simple....victims don't stop being victims just because they hit a certain age. It can go way past the teenage years as the victim knows no better than fear. Then...they do it to someone else.
I hope I've made my point as I'm NOT in anyway justifying their actions....just pity the actions of some.
One girl...was raped by her father and his mates from as young as she could remember. She used to wipe her menstrual blood and feces on people. This stems from the fact that once she started her periods they started anally raping her.
She ended up there for treatment for her mental health. Others ended up there for repeating what had been done to them.
It's not so simple....victims don't stop being victims just because they hit a certain age. It can go way past the teenage years as the victim knows no better than fear. Then...they do it to someone else.
I hope I've made my point as I'm NOT in anyway justifying their actions....just pity the actions of some.
Oh Pleeasse JL every time you produce a right wing rant your response to any criticism is "You wouldn't think that if it were your wife daughter mother whatever"
As if this piece of piercing insight justifies your mob rule mentality
The whole point is that there is a difference between the concepts of justice and vengence
A distiction you seem not to be able to grasp?
Or am I wrong?
Can you see the difference?
As if this piece of piercing insight justifies your mob rule mentality
The whole point is that there is a difference between the concepts of justice and vengence
A distiction you seem not to be able to grasp?
Or am I wrong?
Can you see the difference?
Before anyone gets too hot under the collar, this decision, objectionable and unpalatable though it is to the overwhelming majority of us, goes no further than allowing them a chance to appeal against being on the SOR, but not until at least 15 years after release from prison.
The most telling quote as far as I'm concerned is the one where the Home Secretary said:
"The final decision of whether an offender should remain on the register will be down to the Police..........There will be no right to appeal against the Police's decision.......................(which) will be final."
I can't see the Police granting too many appeals, if at all, any........let's hope so.
The most telling quote as far as I'm concerned is the one where the Home Secretary said:
"The final decision of whether an offender should remain on the register will be down to the Police..........There will be no right to appeal against the Police's decision.......................(which) will be final."
I can't see the Police granting too many appeals, if at all, any........let's hope so.
What is all this with "Kill them" and "Cut them off"!
It's reckoned that one in ten children have been sexually abused by the time they reach 16. 95% of that abuse takes place in the child's own home. I also know someone very close who went through what Ummm describes. It continued until that person was 35 and the same people did it to her children when she was forced to move back home after an eviction. A court case collapsed as she and her sister had no actual proof. I have done a lot of voluntary work with adults who were abused as children and they were all abused at home - none by strangers. Only 5% of sex offences are committed by strangers or people outside the family home.
That's an awful lot of people to be strung up and have their 'things' cut off! What do you do with the women who commit 15% of sex offences? That would be millions of peoples' fathers' mothers, uncles etc suddenly taken out of the picture for millions of families.
Sex offences also include looking at Internet porn and those who have sex with girls under 16 - and that in a society which seems to now advocate underage sex! The average girl now has her first sexual experience at 12 and is often having regular sex at 14! Yet a boy of 16 will be prosecuted for having sex with a 14 year old. Isn't it another form of child abuse for a girl to have a baby and no future by the time she's only 16 or 17? How can a society advocate that, then put on another hat about child abuse?
I think it's important not to treat all sex offenders in the same way as those who commit crimes against very young children. Otherwise the system is in danger of becoming as unwieldy and log-jammed as something like the CRB checks.
It's reckoned that one in ten children have been sexually abused by the time they reach 16. 95% of that abuse takes place in the child's own home. I also know someone very close who went through what Ummm describes. It continued until that person was 35 and the same people did it to her children when she was forced to move back home after an eviction. A court case collapsed as she and her sister had no actual proof. I have done a lot of voluntary work with adults who were abused as children and they were all abused at home - none by strangers. Only 5% of sex offences are committed by strangers or people outside the family home.
That's an awful lot of people to be strung up and have their 'things' cut off! What do you do with the women who commit 15% of sex offences? That would be millions of peoples' fathers' mothers, uncles etc suddenly taken out of the picture for millions of families.
Sex offences also include looking at Internet porn and those who have sex with girls under 16 - and that in a society which seems to now advocate underage sex! The average girl now has her first sexual experience at 12 and is often having regular sex at 14! Yet a boy of 16 will be prosecuted for having sex with a 14 year old. Isn't it another form of child abuse for a girl to have a baby and no future by the time she's only 16 or 17? How can a society advocate that, then put on another hat about child abuse?
I think it's important not to treat all sex offenders in the same way as those who commit crimes against very young children. Otherwise the system is in danger of becoming as unwieldy and log-jammed as something like the CRB checks.
If we jailed and castrated the serious offeners and strung up the killers we would not have the problem though Jake - would we ?
Where does the 10% of children are abused come from ? Same survey that reckone 20% of men carry a 'man bag' ? Whilst I can quite believe the figures are significantly higher than we see this does seem a very large amount.
Where does the 10% of children are abused come from ? Same survey that reckone 20% of men carry a 'man bag' ? Whilst I can quite believe the figures are significantly higher than we see this does seem a very large amount.
Coobeastie, you say 'People should teach their children to keep themselves safe', so what would you suggest?,
We have a chap at work, now in prison, a family man, trusted by his neighbours. He invited,his neighbours young girl into his house, to give her, with the girls parents permission, he never physically touched her, but what he was to get his manhood out, and masturbate in front of her..Turned out he had previous of the same, which is why he was sent down.
He was allowed to live where he was, without his past being known, as a result, he re-offended.
If it was up to me, every sex offender, provided the proof is 100%, would be executed.
We have a chap at work, now in prison, a family man, trusted by his neighbours. He invited,his neighbours young girl into his house, to give her, with the girls parents permission, he never physically touched her, but what he was to get his manhood out, and masturbate in front of her..Turned out he had previous of the same, which is why he was sent down.
He was allowed to live where he was, without his past being known, as a result, he re-offended.
If it was up to me, every sex offender, provided the proof is 100%, would be executed.
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