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magicbeatle | 22:41 Thu 07th Jun 2012 | History
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Been wondering this for years, but never got round to finding out. Just tried to google it but found no answers. Where abouts in America was the 'Wild West'? Was it California?, The Las Vegas Desert?, Texas? etc. I know America as a whole is 'The West', but I dont know where specifically 'The WILD West' was? Anyone know? Thanks.
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If you want to know what areas of the west were "wilder" than others, the 3rd map in the Wiki link gives a good indication - look at territories (eg Arizona) vs states (eg California). By definition the states had more government and therefore it was harder to be wild there. Also, the native populations in states were more likely to have been, er, "civilized"...
22:58 Thu 07th Jun 2012
The Wild West wasn't a where - it was a when, i.e. a period in history rather than a geographical location: http://en.wikipedia.o...ki/American_Frontier.
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Really? But what about all them towns you read about like 'Tombstone' and 'The OK Corale'? Werent they out in the Desert Plains somewhere near where all the Indians lived?
The Wild West aka the Old West aka the American Frontier was a period in history rather than a geographical location. I don't know how to phrase it more simply. Is it the word "west" that you can't get past?
I just assumed (obviously incorrectly) that it referred to the western states...
'Tombstone' and 'The OK Corale'

^ Arizona.
For the record, the Red Indians / Native Americans / First Nation lived all over what is now the USA.
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Yeah, I sort of thought along them lines. Somewhere in the 'West' of the Usa. I thought all them Wild West towns you read about and see in the movies were sort of in one part of the country, like the Mid-West (Wherever that is?)
If you want to know what areas of the west were "wilder" than others, the 3rd map in the Wiki link gives a good indication - look at territories (eg Arizona) vs states (eg California). By definition the states had more government and therefore it was harder to be wild there. Also, the native populations in states were more likely to have been, er, "civilized" compared to territories.
The midwest as defined today starts at about Ohio and stops at Missouri or so (hit Kansas and you are in the Great Plains). Most of the myths that surround the "wild west" are from Texas, Arizona, Nevada, etc.
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Ok, Thanks Guys. That does make sense when I think of it. In essence then (If I understand correctly), It seems you are both right. The 'Wild West' reffered to the country as a whole, but certain areas (Eg Territories) were more 'WILD' than other More Developed Areas.
The USA as a country mainly started in the East, when all the people came across from Europe and landed on the Eastern shore. The areas where these people landed became colonies, populated by different nationalities like English, Dutch, German etc.

As you can imagine these colonies were pretty lawless and there was much in fighting, as well as fighting with local indian tribles.

Gradually these colonies turned one by one into states, but they only existed on the eastern side of the USA.

In fact if you look at where the American Civil War was fought it was all down the East side of the USA. Almost no fighting took place in the centre or on the West.

The Spanish travelled up the Western shore from South America (which is why all the Western cities have Spanish names like Los Angeles and San Francisco).

But the huge middle of the USA was owned by the French and had no states. These had huge areas called "territories" ("indian territories") which were pretty wild and had no law or government so it was "every man for himself".

Eventually the French decided to sell this land to pay for a war, and the land sale was called the Louisiana Purchase where over 800,000 square miles were sold.

http://en.wikipedia.o...ki/Louisiana_Purchase

This huge mass of land then became part of the USA and this led to a massive migration West by people wanting a better life, particularly after the gold rush in California.

The huge move west by people into "wild" areas with no law or government I think gave rise to the name "wild west". Many indian tribles lived on this land and they did not take too kindly to seeing all these new people arrive taking their land and killing their buffalo, and this led to many many wars between the people migrating and the local indians.

There was also much fighting in the South West (New Mexico, Texas etc) as the USA grew (the Alamo etc) and this also probably helped give rise to the term "Wild West".

Ever since the USA was "discovered" by the Europeans it has been mostly a gradual move West across the huge land mass, so I suppose the "wild" bit was always 50 miles West of where civilization had reached at that point.
I must say VHG thank you so much for that resumé of the US I've learnt a lot there...
Wild West, you should try West Brom !

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