Push Button Toilet

[kuulteach]

My push button toilet is continually running water today... what's wrong ...do I need a plumber or is there an adjustment to be made ... have turned of supply to toilet... bit late to expect a plumber tonight ..

[Eve]

Is the toilet sealed or can you get the top off to see the mechanism inside?

I managed to get mine shut off when it was doing the same thing a while back though it kept doing it and had to get it replaced in the end.

Might be worth seeing if it can be tweeked and sorted yourself initially though.

[The Builder]

Lift the lid and have a look inside.
Possibly, the push-button cable is sticking, so that it's constantly flushing.

Or, the float level needs adjusting. Very simple adjustment on modern systems. See what you can find. You'll soon see how it works.

[The Builder]

^^^ now there's a girl who knows about WCs ;o)))

[sunny-dave]

Dratted modern things - far too complicated - I had to watch a blasted youtube video last time I wanted to sort mine out.

What happened to brass fittings, big ballcocks and threepenny washers?

[Eve]

Haha, and temperamental central heating :)

Mine is playing up again though I think it's the plastic cage bit at the top which seems to have come apart (cheap fix I think!) and so isn't doing its thing properly.

Need to go have a fiddle (the me approach to fixing things, faff until it works...or not...) but just put the hearing on for the first time and it's so warm and cosy on the sofa so I'm not moving :)

[The Builder]

Dave... they went the way of BSA Gold Stars and Norton Commandos ;o)

[gness]

That's Dave's modern loo button pressed again......☺

[kuulteach]

It's not continually flushing just a bit more than dribbling.. opening up the top I could see it was filling up to above the internal overflow thingy (sic) assume that something (equivalent of ball valve) is rising higher than it should ... oh give me back the days when you just bent it up or down as required .... think this may be in need of plumber ..

[The Builder]

No no ............. you can do it.

Look at the inlet valve. There should be a float mechanism.

[The Builder]

http://www.screwfix.com/p/fluidmaster-button-cable-dual-flush-bottom-inlet/58353

???

[The Builder]

or ...........

http://www.screwfix.com/p/side-entry-fill-valve/64191

[kuulteach]

Thanks Bob (the builder) this was a cheapo from s c r e w fix (sorry had to space this or else it came out pancreatic (?? ME TOO!) Will check this out

[alavahalf]

The modern cisterns often have an internal overflow.
When you lift the lid off .... is the water flowing over the overflow.
If it is then your problem is the inlet valve.
If it's not flowing over the overflow, then the chances are your flush valve has a bit of something under the washer that seals it.
Without being able to see it. I cant tell you how to remove it. But many modern flush valves are a bayonet fit. If yours is, then it's a simple case of push and twist to remove the whole valve. Where you would probably find a bit of rubbish stuck to the washer or the valve face.
You dont even have to turn the water off.
Good Luck .!

[murraymints]

Simple matter of ballcock adjudtment or replacement..DIY job.............ask the man at B & Q if you re not sure what you need

[alavahalf]

The vast majority of push ..."button toilets"..dont have a ballcock.
The odd one may have, but on a daily basis I find they nearly all have an inlet valve of some sort.

[kuulteach]

Thanks for all your advice have tried *** something which looked like water height adjustment .. this didn't work but when I lifted the other 'thingy' that it's attached to it stopped the water suspect this needs a plumber... water off and bucket next to loo today

[alavahalf]

The bucket method reminds me of a job I went to one day .... the job sheet said ..."toilet not working"
When the 90 year old lady showed me where the bathroom was, I found the 1960's avocado cistern with the lid off. Straight away I found the fault ... I put pressure on the lever and advised her that her syphon/diaphram was split.
I told her that I carried most diaphrams and if I didnt have one .. I would make one and it would be as good as new.

While removing the syphon I asked her how long it had been giving her trouble.
She replied " ever since I moved in " ............ "30 years ago when I retired"
So for 30 years she had been using a 2 Gallon bucket which had sat in the bath all that time.

She then went on to tell me about the years she spent in the desert with Monty as a secretary .... "We had to make do then, so it hadn't occured to me that using a bucket up until now was difficult at all"..!

We dont know we are born do we ..?

Thought I'd just share that with you !

[adela]

Nope its an easy fix you do not need a plumber, it will only take you 5minutes to fix all you need is an outlet valve seal, as the old one gets scaled with Limescale after a few years, http://www.mytoiletspares.co.uk/amstd-fastpart-flushvalve-seal-and-clip-sv01967-691-p.asp

[alavahalf]

kuulteach ... I find that truely amazing that you can identify the part required ... when we dont even know if the cistern has a syphon valve or a flush valve. Not to mention what make it is.

I smell spam.