One Law For Us And Another For Them?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3117248/Immigrants-allowed-hit-children-different-cultural-context-says-High-Court-Judge.html

/// Mrs Justice Pauffley, sitting in the family division of the High Court in London, heard the boy’s parents met and married in India a decade ago. They travelled to Britain on a six-month visa but failed to return when the visas ran out and became ‘overstayers’, the court heard. ///

/// He then launched court litigation in October last year asking a judge to return the boy to his care. ///

How can this be right, it is reported that they are 'Overstayers' yet the husband managers to launch court litigation, all paid for by the British taxpayer I presume?

[Broseph]

I have no idea what you take in the mornings but I would stop it immediately and instead go for a theanine enriched green tea to promote happiness,calmness and a positive outlook.

No to the op,I'm not sure what this mornings enraged outburst is about whether it's the fact they're immigrants,whether you're angry about where your tax goes,whether you think that the judge is a moronic cretin or whether you have issues with smacking children but I'd like to touch on the last subject.

"Hitting your kids" is never on tho I believe in a smack on the hand or bum is needed in many cases to right derailed kids and put them back on the right track until a time comes where you don't need to smack them and a glare or a one liner suffices and I believe that the judge has made a moronic remark as smacking your kids isn't a culture thing but a "I don't want my kids standing on the street corner selling drugs and holding an uzi" thing.

Now let me get back to my green tea as I feel my dismay slowing rising steadily as it does when I read some of the comments and posts in this section.

Now good day to you sir.

[Svejk]

This is a tricky question for the 'right on' crowd, aog. Personally I think children aren't thrashed enough in this country. But I accept I'm not going to win that argument.

[poorclare]

Never mind the green tea, a sugar cude under the tongue has the same effect.
I am with Svejk, we shall never win this one.

Good morning all, hope you have a nice relaxed day, I am off for a stroll along the river bank.

[joggerjayne]

I agree with the sentiment inferred by AOG's question.

It's an absurd ruling.

Does the statute mention that it does not apply to you if you come from a different cultural background?

Germans come from a culture where the out-of-town motorways have no speed restrictions. Might we assume from this ruling that Germans will be free to drive at whatever speed they like on the M25? Imposing speed restrictions seems to conflict with their culture, and clearly we do not enforce laws against people if the law conflicts with their culture.

[poorclare]

oops the should have been sugar Cube

[Peter Pedant]

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AOG if you had to be 'cllean' to be involved in litigation there would never be any criminal cases, would there ?

The answer is probably that under the Children Act 1989 the interests of the child is paramount

It is only in a branch of law called Equity, that one has to be a litigant 'with clean hands'. Read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_hands
and then half way thro' reading it, you can explode "what ARE you talking about again?"

Tinsley v Morgan - two lesbians fraudulently apply for housing benefit and then in ensuing litigation despite their dirty dirty hands are allowed an equitable remedy. [ and WHAT is an equitable remedy when it is at home? I can hear you ask the laptop screen ]

and guess what AOG ? Tinsley v Morgan is back in the news ! here
http://www.newlawjournal.co.uk/nlj/content/dirty-hands-reach-further

[Svejk]

I know what AOG doesn't do in the morning Broseph, you naughty boy.
Broseph
/// I just get going thinking Of nigella as my aunt is a dead ringer of her and has the same voice gravely huskey voice.///
02:52 Wed 10th Jun 2015

[Peter Pedant]

// Personally I think children aren't thrashed enough in this country. //

yeah... thrashed to the edge of their miserable lives...

do you have any children or have they been taken away from you ?

[Broseph]

Svejk it was a typo which has now been amended. I forgot to use the word "Cant"

[Broseph]

/Never mind the green tea, a sugar cude under the tongue has the same effect./

I wondered what a "Sugar crude" was and assumed it was a sugar cube laced with lsd. I don't know where you got that sugar cubes which are metabolized into glucose=energy is the same as theanine which significantly increases activity in the alpha frequency band unless you're a horse?

[Old_Geezer]

It isn't a cultural thing not to physically chastise your kids in this country either, just a number of busybodies criticising those who do use it to teach. You are still allowed to smack them, you can't beat them up in anger though.

[poorclare]

Yes typo Broseph, I know i should not be taking sugar cubes as I am on Simvastatin.
Sorry getting away from the subject

[Gromit]

Another bonkers decision from the Family Court.

The sooner it is abolished the better.

[New Judge]

There are many things wrong with the Family Court system, Gromit (and this looks like one of them). But if the system was abolished how would disputes that currently end up there be resolved?

[anotheoldgit]

Broseph

I should just lay off it, whatever you take, because it is making it hard for others to understand what you are going on about.

[askyourgran]

I thought that we were supposed to be integrating with these immigrants, or vice versa, instead their are laws for them and different ones for us. I did note that they are here by default, overstaying their welcome, why are they still here?
It's all wrong. The judge wants striking off.

[jourdain2]

I'd like to agree with askyourgran.