Ex Muslim Father Brutally Set On, His Crime? Converting To Christianity.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3325273/CCTV-catches-terrifying-moment-father-six-brutally-set-hooded-thugs-pickaxe-handle-targeted-blasphemer-converted-Islam-Christianity.html

This didn't happen in the Middle East, no this happened in what was once the proud English town of Bradford, where now a quarter of people in Bradford are now Muslim, the fourth highest proportion of Muslims in England and Wales.

[anotheoldgit]

A little more on Bradford.

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/10101667.One_in_five_people_in_district_now_of_Pakistani_origin/?ref=ar

This is what has happened to one English City, all thanks to immigration.

[ToraToraTora]

All pretty standard stuff from the R_0P.

[hc4361]

I can't tell if you're outraged at the attack on a Christian Pakistani man or the number of Muslims living in Bradford.

[Gavmacp]

I think he is reminiscing of the good old 50s when we went out for an English!

[hc4361]

Try living in Benidorm. Plenty of places to go out for an English there.

[Gavmacp]

Be careful you'll have a certain gentleman from answerbank moving next door!

[naomi24]

hc4361/Gavmacp, do you really think this is funny - or are you just knocking AOG?

[hc4361]

I just hope this mob of thugs is quickly caught and dealt with properly. Also that the family are given the support they need by their neighbours and church.

[Gavmacp]

To be quite honest I find his posts very amusing and head scratching.

[hc4361]

I really do not think this is funny, naomi. What I object to here is AOG commenting on the number of Pakistani people and their descendants living in Bradford, not on the plight of the victim.

[naomi24]

Gavmacp, this man has been attacked because he's converted to Christianity. What's to scratch your heads about? Don't you understand how utterly appalling that is?

[Gavmacp]

I am not commentating on the story! I personally abhor any violence! Not one of the beating my chest brigade.

[naomi24]

hc4361, // What I object to here is AOG commenting on the number of Pakistani people and their descendants living in Bradford,//

Why do you object? He's entitled to say what he's said - and actually I don't think it's acceptable that some areas of this country, due to immigration, have become unrecognisable.

[naomi24]

Gavmacp, // I am not commentating on the story!//

Clearly!

[Khandro]

[caught on] "CCTV and is being reviewed by West Yorkshire Police, who have confirmed they are treating this as a religious hate crime"

Oh yes and then what ?

[Gavmacp]

Naomi,
A lot of the posts by this chap seem to be around the same type of issues! I find it completely head scratching as to all the possible news stories he could post he generally sticks to one type.

[jourdain2]

I was born very near Bradford and grew up there. I studied there - it was a good place to grow up - I taught in schools there and around most of my life. I have seen the changes first hand.

I have explained to classroomsful of young Muslims that Islam is a religion, like other religion and that one can chose one's religion - they didn't believe me (most were polite about it). They kept arguing that Christians could become Muslim, but not vice-versa. The Bradford diocese used to keep a few 'safe-houses' for people who decided to convert.

I can try to find out a bit more about this, but the people I know who live near, never go into Bradford now. The story really tells us nothing we should not already have known or extrapolated. Poor chap, I hope he'll be OK and helped to make a new life.

[naomi24]

Gavmacp, he does indeed - but this crime carries serious implications and it deserves to be treated seriously.

[Gavmacp]

As I have said I wasn't talking about the story I was trying to be humourious or possibly ironic!
Not one of the 'Name' you said this or that brigade!

[hc4361]

naomi, I can't understand why you feel like that. Many places in the UK are unrecognisable because of 'progress', not immigration. Many towns and cities in 1950s Britain would have been unrecognisable to a person who died in 1910.

And don't forget we British people have completely changed the face of many towns and cities across the world in the last 40 years - I don't mean colonisation or the Raj. There are parts of Spain where you'd be hard pressed to get tapas or paella, or even hear a Spanish voice. You should hear the Spaniards' complaints about the high cost of housing in those areas and the Brits who are illegally operating as taxis, taking the livelihood off legit taxi drivers.

It is obvious why immigrants to Britain have clustered in certain areas such as Bradford.