Three People Found Dead At Foot Of The White Cliffs Of Dover.

[ladybirder]

What a terrible start to the new year for their families.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4080038/Three-bodies-near-cliffs-Dover-say-police.html

[bednobs]

what a strange story

[ladybirder]

Do you mean the fact that they found two more bodies while they were down there bednobs? As you do.

[bednobs]

yes, exactly

[Mamyalynne]

Terribly sad , maybe the other two had not caused any alert or reason for concern so far.


Wish I hadn't scrolled to comments below the article.

[ladybirder]

Maybe Mamya. It must surely have happened very recently or surely they would have been found before now. It has been foggy, a tragic accident perhaps. Unless the bodies were washed up of course. Dreadful news for the families.

[Mamyalynne]

Indeed dreadful for all.

[bookbinder]

I don't think that they would have felt any pain. The pain is reserved for their families and friends.

[marval]

Very sad news, you wonder what happened. Not at all good for the families.

[Baldric]

According to

http://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/serious-incident-at-dover-port-118194/

the bodies were about ½ a mile apart

[Gromit]

Between 20-30 commit suicide a year at the White Cliffs. So nothing really new here.

[ladybirder]

We'll have to keep wondering as don't imagine there will be much, if any, more news tonight. The stunning White Cliffs of Dover are iconic, what a shame they are in the news because of a tragedy, again.

[Gromit]

From 1994

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1994/03/07/white-cliffs-of-dover-become-prime-suicide-site/427bc288-3dab-4d0a-bc90-6dd40b89fa7b/?utm_term=.6938967890fa

[Mamyalynne]

Obviously death is nothing new, but deaths that happen suddenly for whatever reason bring great sadness and hurt to families.

[ladybirder]

My post seems to have annoyed you Gromit? I know, and probably everybody else knows that this is a well known suicide spot. It's my neck of the woods so it is of interest to me, that's why I posted this latest news. It is still a tragedy for the families concerned so I think your 'nothing really new here' comment reads as heartless (albeit true) as it will probably be something new for them. We don't know whether the couple committed suicide, although on the face of it the lone man seems to have done so.

[Gromit]

ladybirder
You are right. I believe suicide to be a selfish act that deliberately puts a great burden on those left behind. I have known of a couple of people who have killed themselves and rather than be sympathetic, it does annoy me and makes me angry. That is why I probably come across as a bit cold.

[237SJ]

^ I wouldn`t say "cold" exactly, I would say ignorant of mental health issues

[anneasquith]

I understand people may think suicide is selfish, but alas it's a bit more complicated.

[andy-hughes]

anneasquith - I have posted several times of my own personal experience of suicide, but it perhaps bears repeating -

As a Samartian volunteer for three years, I spoke with may suicidal people, and after suffering a complete mental breakdown and being housed in a psych ward for three months, and a subsequent lifetime of medication, I can claim to understand suicide both from an intellectual, and a personal viewpoint.

I would assure anyone who thinks that suicides are 'selfish' for their behavior, let me assure them that such concepts are far beyond the mindset of the suicidal person.

Thoughts of family, and consequences for them, are a very very long way in the past - by this time, all that's left is the pain, which simply cannot be borne any longer, and has to be destroyed.

You don't need to be 'brave' or 'cowardly' to kill yourself, or unfeeling, or selfish, or any emotion. You just need to kill the pain.

To see death as a preferable alternative to life, there is just one place you need to be in your mind - you just need to be desperate enough.

[pixie374]

Exactly, Andy...

[anneasquith]

I would say someone who commits suicide does not have a choice at that particular time ,but for the family and friends its a lifetime of sorrow and misunderstanding for them.