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Three People Found Dead At Foot Of The White Cliffs Of Dover.
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What a terrible start to the new year for their families.
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I understand people may think suicide is selfish, but alas it's a bit more complicated.
21:22 Sun 01st Jan 2017
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the bodies were about ½ a mile apart
My post seems to have annoyed you Gromit? I know, and probably everybody else knows that this is a well known suicide spot. It's my neck of the woods so it is of interest to me, that's why I posted this latest news. It is still a tragedy for the families concerned so I think your 'nothing really new here' comment reads as heartless (albeit true) as it will probably be something new for them. We don't know whether the couple committed suicide, although on the face of it the lone man seems to have done so.
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You are right. I believe suicide to be a selfish act that deliberately puts a great burden on those left behind. I have known of a couple of people who have killed themselves and rather than be sympathetic, it does annoy me and makes me angry. That is why I probably come across as a bit cold.
You are right. I believe suicide to be a selfish act that deliberately puts a great burden on those left behind. I have known of a couple of people who have killed themselves and rather than be sympathetic, it does annoy me and makes me angry. That is why I probably come across as a bit cold.
anneasquith - I have posted several times of my own personal experience of suicide, but it perhaps bears repeating -
As a Samartian volunteer for three years, I spoke with may suicidal people, and after suffering a complete mental breakdown and being housed in a psych ward for three months, and a subsequent lifetime of medication, I can claim to understand suicide both from an intellectual, and a personal viewpoint.
I would assure anyone who thinks that suicides are 'selfish' for their behavior, let me assure them that such concepts are far beyond the mindset of the suicidal person.
Thoughts of family, and consequences for them, are a very very long way in the past - by this time, all that's left is the pain, which simply cannot be borne any longer, and has to be destroyed.
You don't need to be 'brave' or 'cowardly' to kill yourself, or unfeeling, or selfish, or any emotion. You just need to kill the pain.
To see death as a preferable alternative to life, there is just one place you need to be in your mind - you just need to be desperate enough.
As a Samartian volunteer for three years, I spoke with may suicidal people, and after suffering a complete mental breakdown and being housed in a psych ward for three months, and a subsequent lifetime of medication, I can claim to understand suicide both from an intellectual, and a personal viewpoint.
I would assure anyone who thinks that suicides are 'selfish' for their behavior, let me assure them that such concepts are far beyond the mindset of the suicidal person.
Thoughts of family, and consequences for them, are a very very long way in the past - by this time, all that's left is the pain, which simply cannot be borne any longer, and has to be destroyed.
You don't need to be 'brave' or 'cowardly' to kill yourself, or unfeeling, or selfish, or any emotion. You just need to kill the pain.
To see death as a preferable alternative to life, there is just one place you need to be in your mind - you just need to be desperate enough.
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