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From the BBC site today ONLY:
I think they are really racist. Non-whites represent about 7 percent of England's population, yet most of the reports have coloured folk as baddies.
Why are the BBC so racist?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7108 056.stm
mad black killer
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7107 901.stm
three black killers
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7107872.stm
potential asian killer
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7107 453.stm
black sex pest
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7107246.stm
seven black killers
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/710 7208.stm
non-white stabber
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorks hire/7107237.stm
black killer
Not bad from the home page alone.
Never knew the BBC were so racist. It disgusts me. Will they take my complaint seriously?
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I Think The BBC Are Racist ! Against Us 93% White Folk. We Cough Up The Most �s To Fund The Program's Via TV Licence's. Inbetween Program's, It Annoy,s Me To Watch Asian,s Dancing Around !! They Even Outnumber Us Chalkies In The Advert,s On The Independent Channel's. Think I'll Forward This To The BNP!!
Bewlay Bros
What a ridiculous post.
Of course black people are responsible for all crime. Any right minded person knows that.
....well, apart from kiddy-fiddling.
But everything else...blacks all the way.
I 'spose if white fellas would jump out of their kids beds for five minutes the blacks would be in there too.
Sorry for the ugly undertone to my post - just trading like for like and all that.
What a ridiculous post.
Of course black people are responsible for all crime. Any right minded person knows that.
....well, apart from kiddy-fiddling.
But everything else...blacks all the way.
I 'spose if white fellas would jump out of their kids beds for five minutes the blacks would be in there too.
Sorry for the ugly undertone to my post - just trading like for like and all that.
Lonnie
I've just done a search in Google using the phrase "DO BLACKS COMMIT MORE CRIMES THAN WHITES?"
and the first website that came back was:
www.ofcourseblackscommitmorecrimesthanwhitesyouidiot.com
I think that's fairly conclu...
Of for God's sake, can we just can this one?
We're far too intelligent and far too old for this.
I've just done a search in Google using the phrase "DO BLACKS COMMIT MORE CRIMES THAN WHITES?"
and the first website that came back was:
www.ofcourseblackscommitmorecrimesthanwhitesyouidiot.com
I think that's fairly conclu...
Of for God's sake, can we just can this one?
We're far too intelligent and far too old for this.
Sp,
If you think it is a ridiculous post may I suggest you too complaing to the BBC. However, if you give me a date in the next week I shall happily replicate this post to prove the point again.
I am afraid your attitude SP is part of the problem. As I have stated before (of which you tore to shreds) there is a huge and disproportionate problem with black criminals in the UK (assuming the BBC are not infact racist and merely reporting facts). It is the accepting brother, like yourself, who, at my guess, are law abiding decent citezens, which cause the problem.
Just like very few, if any, imans publically speak out about defending islam as a "peaceful" religion there are also very few black people speaking out about the problem with black criminals (especially the youth). The only ones you see are harping on about inner-city inequality, how racist England is or work in some two-bit youth club trying to help troubled black kids who are already beyond the law.
When I argued about no middle ground with our coloured cousins, you were the first to ridicule it. I stressed there are no average black people. They are either well-to-do, intellectuals following decent careers and morals or are crack dealing, scumbags intent on stabbing and shooting anything that moves who wear tribal clothing and listen to violent anti-establishment (c)Rap music. How odd I was called a racist for saying 50 percent of the black clan are intellectual opposed to, say, 10 percent of whities.
So I ask you as an intellectual black man why do blacks seem to be over represented in violent crime statistics. Why are the ones who wear baggy trousers and listen to loud music on huge headphones whilst sitting on the London underground more likely to stab an old lady than offer her their seat.
Why SP, why are so many like this and not like you?
If you think it is a ridiculous post may I suggest you too complaing to the BBC. However, if you give me a date in the next week I shall happily replicate this post to prove the point again.
I am afraid your attitude SP is part of the problem. As I have stated before (of which you tore to shreds) there is a huge and disproportionate problem with black criminals in the UK (assuming the BBC are not infact racist and merely reporting facts). It is the accepting brother, like yourself, who, at my guess, are law abiding decent citezens, which cause the problem.
Just like very few, if any, imans publically speak out about defending islam as a "peaceful" religion there are also very few black people speaking out about the problem with black criminals (especially the youth). The only ones you see are harping on about inner-city inequality, how racist England is or work in some two-bit youth club trying to help troubled black kids who are already beyond the law.
When I argued about no middle ground with our coloured cousins, you were the first to ridicule it. I stressed there are no average black people. They are either well-to-do, intellectuals following decent careers and morals or are crack dealing, scumbags intent on stabbing and shooting anything that moves who wear tribal clothing and listen to violent anti-establishment (c)Rap music. How odd I was called a racist for saying 50 percent of the black clan are intellectual opposed to, say, 10 percent of whities.
So I ask you as an intellectual black man why do blacks seem to be over represented in violent crime statistics. Why are the ones who wear baggy trousers and listen to loud music on huge headphones whilst sitting on the London underground more likely to stab an old lady than offer her their seat.
Why SP, why are so many like this and not like you?
I'm not homophobic but that Splat is way too fond of Kylie...
I'm not racist but those people of other colours look funny and don't talk like wot I do.
I'm not agist but they do smell of pee don't they?
I'm not sexist but all men are bar stewards right.
I'm not anti immigration but I do think they shoud all rot in hell for daring to hope for a better life.
Thinking about it... those whales have it rough too don't they?
I'm not always right, but I'm very rarely wrong.
I'm not racist but those people of other colours look funny and don't talk like wot I do.
I'm not agist but they do smell of pee don't they?
I'm not sexist but all men are bar stewards right.
I'm not anti immigration but I do think they shoud all rot in hell for daring to hope for a better life.
Thinking about it... those whales have it rough too don't they?
I'm not always right, but I'm very rarely wrong.
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Wardy the answer is simple, non-white people in this country on the whole have less opportunities to do well than their white counterparts, as such they find it much easier to fall into a life of crime. The problems are intrinsic in society, they start out in this country with very little and don't gain much from being here, being in low paid work or non-work on the whole, poor attidtudes towards them from the natives, poorer social networks, they often have language barriers and as such greater difficulties working the system, poorer acheivment levels at school, and a load of biggots on top of that to deal with. What's needed isn't necessarily easy to provide but playing the blame game is probably the single most counter-productive thing you can do. It's always easier to blame others for societies ills than to dare look upon oneself.
Bewlay Bros
What you fail to grasp is that no one is doubting the figures.
No one is saying the stories are made up.
But your post is along the lines of "Look - black people commit more crimes than whites".
But it's not a question. It has no analysis and cheap, dull, repetative dig.
Now, what's your analysis?
What do you observe?
Apart from their racial background, what did you glean from those stories.
You wrote:
Just like very few, if any, imans publically speak out about defending islam as a "peaceful" religion there are also very few black people speaking out about the problem with black criminals (especially the youth).
Unfortunately, that would appear to be a load of old cobblers.
Are you forgetting about the march in London earlier this year:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7043 808.stm
You went on to write:
When I argued about no middle ground with our coloured cousins, you were the first to ridicule it.
...which is painfully dim. In your world view, black men are either Sir Trevor McDonald, or crack dealers.
I am in no way an intellectual. I'm not even middle class. What I am is what you fail to observe...a very ordinary person who doesn't make headlines.
Do you really want to know the reasons behind the recent escalation in gun and knife crime amongst black kids?
Really?
What you fail to grasp is that no one is doubting the figures.
No one is saying the stories are made up.
But your post is along the lines of "Look - black people commit more crimes than whites".
But it's not a question. It has no analysis and cheap, dull, repetative dig.
Now, what's your analysis?
What do you observe?
Apart from their racial background, what did you glean from those stories.
You wrote:
Just like very few, if any, imans publically speak out about defending islam as a "peaceful" religion there are also very few black people speaking out about the problem with black criminals (especially the youth).
Unfortunately, that would appear to be a load of old cobblers.
Are you forgetting about the march in London earlier this year:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7043 808.stm
You went on to write:
When I argued about no middle ground with our coloured cousins, you were the first to ridicule it.
...which is painfully dim. In your world view, black men are either Sir Trevor McDonald, or crack dealers.
I am in no way an intellectual. I'm not even middle class. What I am is what you fail to observe...a very ordinary person who doesn't make headlines.
Do you really want to know the reasons behind the recent escalation in gun and knife crime amongst black kids?
Really?
Here's where I think most of the problems lie:
1. Poor education
2. Lack of opportunities
3. Disassociation from the wider communitie
4. Lack of positive role models
5. Racism (oh yeah - let's not forget that old chestnut)
6. Poor housing
7. Peer group pressure
If you took a black child at the age of two, away from his rubbish school, rubbish high rise flat, and swapped him with the child of a lawyer living in Hertfordshire and got him to attend a private school, that child would do well because of his surroundings.
Similarly, if you put a privileged child in a rubbish school and got him to stay with a family in a nasty estate in Peckham, similarly you would see that child fail.
You seem to be proffering the idea that it all comes down to race. That is simplistic and, frankly, nonsense.
If that were the case, every single black child in the country would be out committing crime. There are a whole load of influences that impact on the way kids grow up.
1. Poor education
2. Lack of opportunities
3. Disassociation from the wider communitie
4. Lack of positive role models
5. Racism (oh yeah - let's not forget that old chestnut)
6. Poor housing
7. Peer group pressure
If you took a black child at the age of two, away from his rubbish school, rubbish high rise flat, and swapped him with the child of a lawyer living in Hertfordshire and got him to attend a private school, that child would do well because of his surroundings.
Similarly, if you put a privileged child in a rubbish school and got him to stay with a family in a nasty estate in Peckham, similarly you would see that child fail.
You seem to be proffering the idea that it all comes down to race. That is simplistic and, frankly, nonsense.
If that were the case, every single black child in the country would be out committing crime. There are a whole load of influences that impact on the way kids grow up.
Race is pretty much the same thing as genetics in my non-scientific opinion, and it is fair to say you and others often class me as racist.
But please tell me, is it really racist to say black people have a 50 percent gentic orientation to be an above average citizen whereas white people have around a ten?
A theory you may disagree with, but do you as an IC3 view it as a racist theory?
But please tell me, is it really racist to say black people have a 50 percent gentic orientation to be an above average citizen whereas white people have around a ten?
A theory you may disagree with, but do you as an IC3 view it as a racist theory?
sp1814
I agree with your analysis of poverty and racism. However Professor Campbell (yes I know we can discount her, she may be clever but she is a woman and left wing!!). She considers you can and should not try and make an analysis of violence without considering the culture of gender, how is masculinity expressed.
"The inexorable rise and rise of knife and gun culture isn't about black communities, or even black boys. It is about boys".
"addressing the fundamental correlation between masculine cultures and violence across all cultures and classes".
So because I think she is absolutely fab and writes coherently about things I can not quite encapsulate in my tiny mind, I am going with her.
So sorry sp - its all about being a bloke - you just have to change the rather nasty patriarchy - ie deal with terrorism by more macho violence, but don't pull a knife out on the kid that shows you no respect - bit of a dichotomy really.
Thanks Belway for presenting me an opportunity to expound my views and those of my hero Prof Campbell
I agree with your analysis of poverty and racism. However Professor Campbell (yes I know we can discount her, she may be clever but she is a woman and left wing!!). She considers you can and should not try and make an analysis of violence without considering the culture of gender, how is masculinity expressed.
"The inexorable rise and rise of knife and gun culture isn't about black communities, or even black boys. It is about boys".
"addressing the fundamental correlation between masculine cultures and violence across all cultures and classes".
So because I think she is absolutely fab and writes coherently about things I can not quite encapsulate in my tiny mind, I am going with her.
So sorry sp - its all about being a bloke - you just have to change the rather nasty patriarchy - ie deal with terrorism by more macho violence, but don't pull a knife out on the kid that shows you no respect - bit of a dichotomy really.
Thanks Belway for presenting me an opportunity to expound my views and those of my hero Prof Campbell
A woman's written a book???
Isn't that illegal?
Just joshing with you ruby27.
I don't know of Prof Campbell's work, but it sounds interesting.
It's something that tends to get overlooked in the 'race to blame' (forgive the pun)...that it's overwhelmingly boys who turn to guns and knives.
Never even thought of that one.
I'll Google her when I get into work.
Isn't that illegal?
Just joshing with you ruby27.
I don't know of Prof Campbell's work, but it sounds interesting.
It's something that tends to get overlooked in the 'race to blame' (forgive the pun)...that it's overwhelmingly boys who turn to guns and knives.
Never even thought of that one.
I'll Google her when I get into work.
My very non racist friend went to join the Fire Brigade, and failed, but came away disgusted at the racism he encountered there.
Positive discrimination for blacks and women literally guaranteed that he would not get in, because the service had quotas to fill.
So, now he is very bitter, and that is a shame, as he is a really nice bloke. But, he was up against political correctness, and a very uneven playing field.
The same can be said for the police, where the most qualified candidate is rejected for reason of gender or ethnicity. Yet we tell our kids, to work hard in school to get a good job.
Young white males should not be discriminated against for the P.C. brigade to fill quotas.
Why should my kids be denied opportunity because they are white and male?
Positive discrimination for blacks and women literally guaranteed that he would not get in, because the service had quotas to fill.
So, now he is very bitter, and that is a shame, as he is a really nice bloke. But, he was up against political correctness, and a very uneven playing field.
The same can be said for the police, where the most qualified candidate is rejected for reason of gender or ethnicity. Yet we tell our kids, to work hard in school to get a good job.
Young white males should not be discriminated against for the P.C. brigade to fill quotas.
Why should my kids be denied opportunity because they are white and male?
Perhaps the statistics we need are "What percentage of the black/coloured population have been found guilty of a major crime" and similarly the percentage of whites.
Next, let's not play the poor education, poor housing, Peckham card. Life is what you make of it - the education system is the same for all school kids etc etc. The fact is that no one is born good or bad and IF they wanted to better themselves by studying harder at school/college, getting a better paid job and pulling themselves up in life that's their choice as opposed to the can't be bothered attitude that exists and that goes for all races.
Next, let's not play the poor education, poor housing, Peckham card. Life is what you make of it - the education system is the same for all school kids etc etc. The fact is that no one is born good or bad and IF they wanted to better themselves by studying harder at school/college, getting a better paid job and pulling themselves up in life that's their choice as opposed to the can't be bothered attitude that exists and that goes for all races.
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