Abortion, I never knew!!!

[Rtaxron]

I was seriously shocked and disturbed today after reading an article in my paper about how (an abortion) is performed.
I never in the past thought about it to much, (being a bloke) and thought a girl/women just went to the clinic, was given an inducing jab and the foetus just came out and that was it. (Please forgive me for that Ladies).
I didn't realize that an injection is given to the foetus/baby to kill it before the abortion.
I phoned my daughter who has been a nurse in a children's intensive care unit, and now a health visitor for some advice and info.
She told me that she had helped deliver/nursed 3 babies in the past that were only 22/23/24 weeks when born and all survived.

As the columnist rightly said in her article, the vote by our MPs last week, mainly Men, has been kept to 24 weeks, something is terribly wrong?

[figure]

Rtaxron, I've witnessed the procedures of two abortions and they were not simple tasks, or pleasant sights. I personally would never have an abortion unless it completely necessary.

[Ice.Maiden]

Totally agree with figure - and to make matters even worse, I've read about doctors and nurses finding even younger foetuses being "aborted" but remaining alive for a time outside the body. I think the choice is up to the individual, but I for one, could never kill something that was part of me.

[pastafreak]

I don't like how it is done,and i do think the time scale should have been changed..I am surprised that (male)MPs did not vote a different majority......I will still support a womans right to have one,as it is a deeply personal choice,,but the time limit really should be changed (without scaremongering publicity).

[Rtaxron]

What disturbed me was the procedure of having an injection to the foetus/baby to end its life.
Surely if the baby is alive it should have a right to live.

Sometimes its the right decision. if through scans etc it has brain damage etc, but when its confirmed healthy its wrong at 24 weeks.

Just my opinion of course, but it still upsets me.

[figure]

In my opinion, it's murder.

[Ice.Maiden]

This is what the pro and anti groups discuss until the cows come home. I have a young child who's mentally handicapped to an extent, and had I known that he was going to have this disability, I'd have still chosen to have him. He's a gorgeous-looking child, and you wouldn't know there was anything wrong with him by just looking. Whatever, he's my son, and part of me. The thought of making a decision to end his life would never've entered my head. However, it really is only a decision that an individual can make. What's right for one, wouldn't be for another, but I personally could never end a life that'd already begun.

[tigerlily11]

I saw something on the TV news some time ago about lunch time abotions. It made me feel quite sick to think that some women, not just council estate girls mind you, but career women in high paid jobs could just walk into a clinic and do the deed for no other reason than they were to lazy to take the pill or some other precaution.
This to my mind is just plain wrong.
But having said that there are cases when it has to be done.
What I object to the way it is taken so lightly by some women who use it as a form of contraception.
There needs to be a different approach to those women who have used it as such.
I have known at least three women who have had them and two for reasons of health and one because she was raped. All have suffered since in dealing with what they had to do. Yet still some women look on it as a conveniance.

[Ice.Maiden]

Absolutely true, tigerlily. I also know women who've gone through abortions because the pregnancy was "an inconvenience". I hope these women manage to live with themselves, because I couldn't. If you create a life, then I believe it has the right to live it, and try talking about abortion to a couple of my friends who seem unable to have babies at all. My heart breaks for them.

[EngTeach]

I am most certainly Pro-choice, which is quite different from pro-abortion. It is a deeply personal choice. I agree that it should not be a form of birth control.

I am very surprised at the very conservative voices here. In general I find most CBers to be quite liberal. Not judging at all, just surprised.

This is always a heated topic and crosses both religious and political lines. The 2 things people say to avoid discussing. :)

[ChuckFickens]

I am also very much pro choice, but all I'm gonna say is I was adopted at birth due to the fact my biological father was a catholic so abortion was not an option for him. if it had of been I wouldn't be here now.

[pastafreak]

Is it co-incidence that I-as the other 'yank' on here-am also pro-choice???

[figure]

Bless you Chucky! I'm glad you was not a victim of that deadly sin and was saved. xx

[EngTeach]

hi Pasta,

I don't think most "Yanks" agree with us. We have become quite a conservative country lately. God save us from 4 more years of the Republicans. The GOP candidate is named McCain. they dubbed him McBush :)

I dread the day Roe v. Wade is called into question and overturned.

Side note... my neighbors are having a rather loud Memorial Day BBQ. They are great neighbors except on Memorila Day and 4th of July. They shoot off fireworks in their backyard that come way too close to my house. Thankfully I will be a way on the 4th.

[Ice.Maiden]

It is, without doubt, a highly emotive topic, which comes from personal choice. I can only say that a close relative of mine was actually in a hospital gown, waiting to have an abortion. She changed her mind at the last minute, and now has a strapping healthy son who she loves to bits. I sometimes wonder how the women who go through with terminating an inconvenient pregnancy, might feel in years to come - especially if they find that they don't get pregnant again, should they wish to at a later stage.

[figure]

Hope you have an enjoyable Memorial day, EngTeach. x

[Ice.Maiden]

Ditto that, Eng Teach.

[pastafreak]

What you say is true ET.....do hope Memorial Day isn't too explosive!! x

[EngTeach]

Thanks figure.

Ice, I too have known people with similar stories. My sister could have easily chosen that path when she found out she was pregnant, I can not imagine my life now without my little niece. She is my little shadow. i am glad she had her, but would have supported her had she made the other choice.

[Ice.Maiden]

Yes, as a caring relative or friend, that's the only thing you can do, isn't it? I'd support the decision made by anyone facing the awful decision, but as aforesaid, I can't understand the reasoning of women who want an abortion to order, simply because the pregnancy was a "mistake" or that it interfered with work, etc. Having said that, it's a decision which rests entirely with the woman concerned, and I'm happy to say that I'll never be in the terrible situation of having to make that choice myself. As when you now look at your niece, I look at my children every day and think how lucky i am that they're there.

[EngTeach]

Well said ICE.

I am am turning in soon. See Ya in the morning! ( Well, it will be afternoon for you) :)