So explain this gaping hole you kyghurt knitters

[youngmafbog]

Sorry couldn't resist it, however to be serious now:

A 'ghastly' £4.3 billionleap in the borrowing for January when it was expected that a surplus of £2.8 billion for January, a generally good month for the Government due to tax revenue coming in.

Looks like we are heading for more than 13% of GDP if this continues.

Why is Gordon re arranging the deck chairs whilst the country sinks. Apart from a few pinko nutters no one believes him now.

This is not the Daily mail nor the Tories or Lib dems, just hard fact so I'd like to hear anyinteresting spin from the resident muselei munchers.

[IggyB]

you do know that gordon brown and the labour party in general have very little to do with politics from the "left" anymore don't you? They operate more or less in the same area as the conservatives.

[boxtops]

what's kyghurt?

[fredpuli47]

On a purely dietary note: I know plenty of Tory voters ( and the one Conservative MP of my acquaintance) who eat muesli and yoghurt .Are they secret 'pinkos' ? Or is the extent of your political understanding limited to speculation about what the electorate has for breakfast ?
David Cameron looks exactly the kind of man who eats both and Gordon Brown exactly the kind of man who doesn't eat either (but that's my speculation)

[Backdrifter]

Yes, people do still have this curiously outdated notion that Labour is still supported by tree-huggers, museli (Or "muselei") eaters, etc. And that Brown's staunch supporters consist of "pinkos". Is youngmafbog channelling the ghost of Denis Thatcher?

[Quizmonster]

You'd think that SOME of them would at least be able to SPELL the mantras they continually chant, wouldn't you?

[Ankou]

and why has nobody said 'noo labour'

its just not on.

[jake-the-peg]

Are the 60 economists who wrote to the financial times backing government policy part of the pinko nutter group?

[jake-the-peg]

Oh sorry that wasn't news when you wrote that yesterday

Isn't it a pain when you start a right rant and a whole group of professional experts totally undermines you and shows you up for a total idiot?

[fredpuli47]

'Noo Labour'? It shows how Blair succeeded, that we now think of 'noo/new' Labour as just 'Labour' and 'old Labour' as historically distant as the Whigs or the Levellers. In 1996 a friend of mine disturbed a Conservative selection commitee by saying that her one problem was that she now found herself to the left of Tony Blair. The remark had a lot more than a grain of truth in it. (She was selected,too, so the committee must have been resigned to the sudden reality of it !) No pinkos for Blair. They could go off and found their own party.

[R1Geezer]

so are you saying then that Noo Labour are now the Noveau Conservatives Iggy?

[Gromit]

To answer your question.

The figures are not good, but hardly surprising. They are the worse January figures since records began in 1993 and the first time tax receipts have fallen in that month. But we have just had a year of recession (which was preceded by 10 years of solid growth). It seems pretty obvious the tax receipts would go down.

Who exactly expected a £2.8billion surplus? The Government's borrowing figures are still on track, so not the treasury. Or the £2.8billion was forecast before the recession hit, and will have been revised down. Not good, but just what you would expect.

Finally to say our economy is in worse shape than Greece (which all the Tory papers are saying) is like comparing the your local cornershop to a Tesco Superstore. The scale just does not compare.

[VHG]

>which was preceded by 10 years of solid growth

Any idiot can "borrow" their way into growth.

If I got the bank to lend me a million pounds I would be able to buy a big house a drive round in a Rolls Royce.

But then I would not be able to pay it back.

I may look rich, but is that "growth"?

[youngmafbog]

Apart from the usual idiots correcting my spelling (yes I was P8ssed cos I have a life) I cant see any good arguments.

Case rests

[Quizmonster]

I'm a bit too old for this text-speak. What on earth does "P8ssed" mean? I believe that "CUL8R" is spoken as "See you later", so the 8 would seem to be pronounced as "ate". But "patessed"?
If the 8 was just a typo for the letter 'i' below it, I still don't understand..."Yes I was drunk (British) or annoyed (American) because I have a life." Can that be it?

[fredpuli47]

QM, 8 is directly above I on a British keyboard.It's conveniently to hand as a deliberate replacement for I .

CUL8R is not pronounced 'kul ater' .There, the letters are pronounced by their names and the digit by its name. Different principle !

[Quizmonster]

I actually referred to the fact that 'i' was below '8' myself, Fred, but I have never before seen '8' deliberately used as a substitute for 'i'. But, having thus substituted it, I failed to see what Youngmafbog's resulting sentence actually MEANT. That's why I said text-speak is beyond me.
I myself have been in the state described a multitude of times during a longish life - and hope for many more! - and there was a corresponding multitude of reasons for my condition, but I never woke up the following morning saying to myself, "I was piddled last night because I have a life." I just don't get the connection. If just "being alive" was a reason for drunkenness, surely one ought to be drunk at all times.

[seekeerz]

having just found out what kyghurt is, how the heck do you knit with it ???