Why do parents etc take kids shopping and to church when they know they are going to create mayhem! Kids hate shopping unless it is for them and as for church if you have no one to look after them don't go, God will forgive you!
Not only kids hate shopping husbands as well, watched them yesterday in our local shopping centre totally bored tagging along with wives girlfriends, look on their faces saying, I'd rather be watching football having a pint with the mates!!
I am sure most parents wouldn't take them if they had the choice. And anyway, that's not very "Christian" of you to suggest that children have no place in a church! Didn't Jesus say something about "suffer little children to come unto me"? Sorry not religious in the slightest, but surely the whole point is for the whole community to come together and worship rather than just a weekend jolly for the coffin dodgers?
Easy, you involve them - give them some responsibility, it works, I've tried it.
As for church, I wouldn't inflict christian church on any child in my care.
Annie I know Jesus said Suffer Little Children To Come On to Me, but he's not there in Church and Sainsburys when little children are inflicting their suffering on to us! I have kids and grandchildren love them to bits!
Why don't we create a society that's just for adults? Maybe parents want to spend time with their children but have to do things as well - we don't all have nannies to look after the children till mummy can fit in half an hour of 'quality time'. What did your parents do with you when you were a child?