May Your God Speed You And Be With You

[retrocop]

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/archbishop-canterbury-convicted-speeding-days-100425893.html
Made me giggle.

[ladybirder]

Fabulous!! Couldn't have happened to anyone better haha! Justice done.

[Khandro]

In The Spectator I read;
"Welby was slapped with three points on his licence and ordered to pay £510 for driving in his VW Golf at 25mph in a 20mph zone. The incident took place last October on London’s Albert Embankment."

I don't like Welby much, but that seems an excessively high fine.
Is this all part of Sadiq Khan's war on London motorists?

Even with God's help it's not easy to maintain exactly 20mph, an extra 5mph should be tolerated, - it isn't exactly 'speeding' is it?

[-SharonA-]

Perhaps he was speeding to the aid of a refugee.

[lankeela]

Khandro do you know the difference in injury level between being hit by a vehicle at 20 mph and 25 mph?

[lankeela]

A vehicle travelling at 20mph would stop in time to avoid a child running out three car-lengths in front. The same vehicle travelling at 25mph would not be able to stop in time, and would hit the child at 18mph. This is roughly the same impact as a child falling from an upstairs window.

[ladybirder]

Would it be OK for every Tom Dick and Harry to drive at 25mph in a 20mph zone?

[lankeela]

Of course he could have a word with the man upstairs to save that child.

[youngmafbog]

//A vehicle travelling at 20mph would stop in time to avoid a child running out three car-lengths in front.//

And a vehicle travelling at 5mph behind a man with a red flag will stop even faster.

[Zacs-Master]

Why was there a victim surcharge?

[retrocop]

I don't like Welby much, but that seems an excessively high fine.
Is this all part of Sadiq Khan's war on London motorists?
Yes Khandro. Part of Khans vindictive war on motorists. He want's to kill London's commerce dead
Me thinks it wasn't his first speeding offence as the fine does seem excessively high. If it was his first he would of been offered a speed awareness course and received no fine or points except for the cost of the course which varies up to about £100.Perhaps if he spent less time bothering God he could of spared half a morning in his living room doing the course on zoom.

[retrocop]

Perhaps if he spent less time bothering God he could of spared half a morning in his living room doing the course on zoom.
Less time playing pseudo politician in the HoL as well!

[Khandro]

BA to youngmafbog 14:42 for the response to Lankeela's absurd post.

I might add, the same stretch of road had up until lately, a limit of 30 mph. Has the "injury level" to people (if there were any) been less severe since the change?

[ladybirder]

There is always a victim surcharge Zacs.

[Zacs-Master]

Who the hell is the victim?

[ladybirder]

//In the legal system of England and Wales, the surcharge, often referred to as a victim surcharge is a penalty applied to people convicted of offences, in addition to a conditional discharge, a fine, or a community or custodial sentence, in order to provide compensation for the victims of crime.\\

[lankeela]

Khandro why do you say my post is absurb when it is a well documented fact. Rather rude of you.

[Old_Geezer]

I may not like his recently expressed opinions, but when it comes to 20 mph zones interspersed with more normal ones, he has my sympathy. The authorities need to shove their 20mph zones where the sun doesn't shine, and sack everyone involved in implementing them. 30 mph served well for many many decades, and folk knew that the onus to ensure safety was on the individual. These days it's always a case of, "What can we pin on the automobile and how can we get at the drivers ?". Society needs to get back to sanity.

[Buenchico]

>>> but that seems an excessively high fine

A speed of 25mph, in a 20mph zone, has a 'starting point' sentence of 3 penalty points plus a Band A fine:
https://i.postimg.cc/wMJ3WfxB/Speed.jpg

A Band A fine has a 'starting point' of 50% of 'relevant weekly income' (which is broadly equivalent to 'take home pay'):
https://i.postimg.cc/XJ5V3rRH/Fine.jpg

That's why, for example, a top Premier League footballer can be fined many thousands of pounds for the same offence that someone on the National Living Wage only has to pay a much smaller amount than.

The Archbishop's salary is around £85k but expenses that are paid on his behalf by the Church of England might also need to be taken into account.

[Maydup]

He was penalised for not paying up within the 14 days. Not only did he drive over the speed limited but he ignored the fine.

[Buenchico]

^^^ He certainly failed to pay the fine within the time limit but his spokesman said that he'd tried to no fewer than three times. So, if that's true, he didn't 'ignore' it!