Dore and babby

[DaSwede]

Hello all, I have two questions but would be happy to receive answers even just to one of them. I don't get to log in very often, so I thank you now - and hopefully at some later point as well.

1) Pronunciation of Dore (the town/city/village). I'm assuming it rhymes with more - correct? (You may wonder how else it would possibly be pronounced, but do keep in mind that you are a people who spell Mainwaring and pronounce Mannering, so don't mock me for asking... I need to be sure, as I'm putting it in a verse.)

2) The word babby (for baby), do you perceive it mainly as regional, or as Olde Englyshe, or equally both? Any particular connotations?

Thanks!

[noxlumos]

Babby is quite common especially in the black country, it wouldn't be out of the ordinary to really hear that for baby and I believe it ocurs in older verse too.The connotation would be if I heard someone use that expression today would be that the person concerned would be a salt of the earth type, probably working class.

[lady_p_gold]

I think they still say 'babby' in Scotland too .. but you would never hear it down South. Never heard of Dore I am afraid so not much help there !!!

[espookid]

try to find an etymological dictionary as they give the normal pronunciation but make sure you dont mix up the french words that are spelled the same

[ajmmac]

look at this site
http://www.dorevillage.co.uk/
it's a community site for a village called dore--the site itself is not relevant other than it is called --open dore--and refers to a publication called--dore to door--so i guess by these puns the village of dore is pronounced--door

[DaSwede]

Belated thanks from one frustrated Swede! I read your answers ages ago, but don't have access to the internet except at public computers at caf�s etcetera, and they hardly ever allow me to sign in. (The computers, that is - I'm not banned from the caf�s...)

noxlumos, thanks to you I've learned what 'the black country' is, and your answer along with yours, lady_p_gold, has given me a good grip on the babby-word. (Still wonder if it isn't old English too, though...?) espookid, I 'have' a good etymological dictionary, online, but Dore wasn't in it, innit. But I'm on the lookout for a good etymological dictionary in the shape of an oldfashioned book as well, so do please recommend one, if you see this. ajmmac, your reply quite settles the rhyming-issue - thank you very much!

[geo0939]

Being Scottish, I can say that the word babby is still used in Scotland. It is, however, going out of fashion as are so many archaic expressions. (Sadly).