Do you beleive in Heaven and Hell ?

[WhiteBear]

my colleague said he think there is a God, and believes that you will either go to Hell, or Heaven when you die.

So i questioned how, how do God decide whether u go to Heaven or Hell? do they hold a some sort of a computer record of what you had done in your life?

Also what makes you deserved to go to Heaven?
do you have to be 100% good?

He questioned me where would a paedophile go? heaven or hell, although he was abused as a child. thats why he turned into one. so do u think a Hell for this person? but u have to think about when he was abused as a child.

What if you killed someone but wasnt your fault? eg... a train driver... sees a person or animal etc onthe track and too late to stop and kills it, where would this person go?

if there is heaven or hell do you think there should be a Neutral place to go? if you dont deserve to go either way? (perhaps back to life?)

for me i dont think theres such thing as Heaven or Hell.

[naomi24]

Neither do I.

[terambulan]

Religion is similar to Aesops fables; stories dreamed up by drug-addicted arabs (all men oddly enuf) in the desert.

The women are traditionally forbidden to indulge in the pot/crack 'gatherings' as they have to do mundane work like cook, care for kids of these misogynist bullies.

[WhiteBear]

terambulan what's that got to do what im asking?

[terambulan]

no such places.....when you die - life is over for you. End of!

[Mr Veritas]

No heaven
No hell
No god
End of question.

[jake-the-peg]

Try this logic:

Is there sin in heaven?

Most Christians will say no - obviously not.

But they'll also tell you the reason we have sin and evil is man's free will.

So that would mean we have no free will in heaven.

Then they come out with the "magic wand" - God is so amazing he can resolve this paradox and we can't understand it?

Really? - then he could have resolved it when the Earth was created and we could have free will and no evil in the world.

So If he could have done this but didn't - God must want evil in the world.

So God willfully inflicts evil on us - so he is not the God of Love that they claim!



Or more simply you have no life before birth why on earth would you expect there to be life at the other end of you time on this planet?

It's all a bunch on nonsense but for some people it's the only thing they cling to

[joet75]

this is hell on here lol

[rojash]

Nicely put, jake-the-peg

[joet75]

if you're in heaven after death, are you human or spirit?? doesn't sin apply to humans only?? only asking don't get antzy over it. lol

[naomi24]

Jake, there's no sin in heaven 'cos only the obedient people who abandon their free will get to go there. Didn't cha know that?

[joet75]

wonder how many peeps on here are believers? bet there's more non believers.

[naomi24]

Not sure, but it would be interesting to find out. Maybe you should post the question and ask for one word answers, joet.

[Mr Veritas]

I have seen (personally) one of the worst things in history that god allowed (please don't say it was "wicked" man,because god,if he really exists, could have prevented it).

[joet75]

what was that then, mr veritas?

[Gourmander]

You can go to purgatory, that is a neutral place. You will be allowed to put your side of the story, then God and the angels will decide.

[The Sherman]

Does no one realise the absolute absurdity in believing that a bunch of little angels will be sitting in court deciding on your future?

[terambulan]

Gourmander....we spend our whole lives being tested and judged; from school to final heart-rate. Purgatory is another test - after death, you can buy yourself out with enuf prayer during your life hope this sounds as non-sensicle as it is.

[Gourmander]

Who else will decide, Sherman? The Devil is always waiting in the wings.

[Gourmander]

Terambulan, prayer alone won't get you out of purgatory. There are many factors to be taken into consideration. Racism is one and swearing a lot in the pub is another. If you can convince God that you are truly sorry, then there may be a place in heaven. I also think that being PC most of your life would be a plus.

[naomi24]

^^ He/she can't possibly be serious, can he/she?