Pot calling the kettle black?

[R1Geezer]

http://news.bbc.co.uk...ld/europe/8618878.stm
Is there an inherent link? I mean let us not forget that Tatchell and co after sucessfully lowering the age of consent to 16, immediately suggested 14.

[jno]

No. There is no inherent link. Paedophiles can be male or female, gay or straight.

[sandyRoe]

If a male paedophile was attracted to little girls how would homosexuality be a factor?

[jackthehat]

No inherent link, at all, whatsoever, in any way shape of form...............
I challenge anyone saying otherwise to provide a link to any independent study confirming this odious clerics assertions.

[R1Geezer]

I was just a little worried that they seem to want the age reduced to 14 that's all, does seem odd to me.

[McMouse]

In the Fens they've raised the age of consent to 12 in the case of siblings.

[Quinlad]

"They"
"Tatchell and co"


Presumably by that you mean "all gays"?

[R1Geezer]

Well I haven't seen any of them condemming Tatchel and co!

[jackthehat]

http://www.petertatch...consent%20at%2014.htm

This call is for a re-thinking of 'same-age' sex rather than being a paedophiles charter, but please don't let that stop your outrage.

This still fails to address the issues asserted by Cardinal Bertone.

[R1Geezer]

I just remember the last usage of the Parliament act by Noo Labour to help out their Gay mates. Tatchell was delighted and then, presumably on a role, went in for the 14 year old, intention The article you post jack is talking about all people yes but no where does it prevent older people having sex with 14 year old children, a paedophiles charter if ever there was one. This may allow sex between 14 year olds but it also opens the floodgates for all kinds of perverts.

[Davethedog]

R1 I take it your off to attack the Pediatricians later

[R1Geezer]

so jack as you clearly have no intelligent response and are now talking about child doctors, can I assume you have no more arguments on the matter? Didn't think you'd give up so easily jack must admit. SP1814 will be along soon I'll get a decent debate out of him.

[jno]

maybe you need to look at the names of the people posting, Geezer?

[naomi24]

This demonstrates the ignorance of the church, and its priests, and shows just how far removed they really are from the realities of everyday life. Moreover, it's an attempt to defend the indefensible and a ploy to shift the blame in a desperate effort to protect the reputation of the church. Too late, I'm afraid. For many its reputation is, quite rightly, in tatters - and attempting to apportion responsibility in what it sees as a convenient area isn't going to change that.

[R1Geezer]

sorry jack, I take it all back! Dave: what I said to jack!

[youngmafbog]

R1 definitley has a point. whilst this calls for same age sex it would not be long before Tachell would be banging his drum again and pressing is lefty liberal chums to get another misuse of the Parliament Act for him and his Gay mates. Would not be long before the equal/ooman rights lot started going on about different sex relationships and before you know it a Paedo's charter is on its way.

Dave, do you have anything intellignet to say or are you actually the one who piles down to the child doctors ?

[Davethedog]

You are a moron - It was tounge in chekk.

You are with out doubt the stupidest poster to ever have posted on here.

[sp1814]

A bit of perspective:

"The National Survey of Sexual Attitudes and Lifestyles, which interviewed nearly 19,000 men and women in 1990-91, is the most comprehensive sex research ever conducted in Britain. It found that half of those questioned - which included both gay and straight - had their first sexual experience (not necessarily intercourse) before the age of 16, mostly after the age of l4."

Personally, I don't think the age of consent needs to be changed. Plenty of kids smoke, but just because they DO, don't mean that we should condone it.

Another point - I personally think that Peter Tatchell is a hero for a number of reasons, but I think he's wrong about this. And let's not assume that he necessarily speaks on behalf of the gay community on every subject. That would be like assuming that Noel Gallagher speaks on behalf of all guitarists, just because he plays one.

[Old_Geezer]

The only connection is that they share the same flaw of being attracted to the wrong partner type. There can be overlap between the groups, but no more so than between any other group The significant difference is that one imposes themselves on others who are vulnerable, whist the other are in mutally agreed relationships.

[jno]

Tatchell's suggestion relates to straight sex as well as gay sex, so this really doesn't have a lot to do with the Vatican's stance. As he mentions, it would put Britain on the same footing as sex-mad countries like Iceland and San Marino. It would also, it seems, put the laws in line with what a lot of Britons actually do. Whether you actually agree with it or not, none of it seems terribly irresponsible.