Azed 2031

[djawhufc]

Hi

Just finished apart from writing my clue.

There were 2 I think I've answered correctly.

Can I check;

19a this rig may be apparent in an iron reign.

Neronian



29a the old complain over the hill about 80 very old


Grone

I also assumed 24d the clue not in Chambers
Old hat covering up only haf part of butter


Cornu

Thanks in advance


DJA

[roslyn251254]

Agree with all 3

[bellabee]

i don't understand why it says 'not in chambers' - the entry for cornu is there [a horn] which would be 'part of butter' = ram. the meaning of 'corn' as 'old-hat' is there too. so old hat + u[p] only half = cornu ??

[djawhufc]

I didn't look in chambers as I assumed it wasn't there. Odd mistake?

[bellabee]

but azed rarely makes mistakes so i'm reserving judgement on this

[pldcav]

Old-hat is in C only as an adjective, not as a noun

[bellabee]

yes pldcav, that's how i'm using it old-hat = old fashioned = corn. i know that the hyphen is missing in the clue but can't make sense of it as 2 words [old and hat]. can you tell me how you are breaking this clue down?

[pldcav]

Bellabee - the way you have analysed it is fine. It's just that, for Chambers, "old hat" is an adjective meaning out-of-date, and "corn" is a noun meaning something old fashioned. So they don't quite marry up. I don't think I'd have noticed if Azed hadn't mentioned it, though!

[bellabee]

thank you pldcav i see what you mean, but it's a hell of a fine distinction - i think the missing hyphen is a bigger deal myself!