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172 EDL members arested near cenotaph
// Nearly 200 members of the far-right English Defence League were arrested in central London yesterday after police discovered that they planned to attack the protesters occupying St Paul’s Cathedral.
The group of 172 were held inside the Red Lion pub near the Cenotaph in Whitehall after detectives discovered intelligence that they planned to head to the London Stock Exchange occupation. //
http://www.telegraph....on-Armistice-Day.html
You would have thought that these patriotic English gentlemen would have had more respect than to plan aggro on a day of remembrance. Do you think this campaign group have been infiltrated by the BNP?
The group of 172 were held inside the Red Lion pub near the Cenotaph in Whitehall after detectives discovered intelligence that they planned to head to the London Stock Exchange occupation. //
http://www.telegraph....on-Armistice-Day.html
You would have thought that these patriotic English gentlemen would have had more respect than to plan aggro on a day of remembrance. Do you think this campaign group have been infiltrated by the BNP?
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The police had information that they were planning to attack the St Paul's protesters.
Which is somewhat odd, as I don't think there are too many jihadists there.
Then of course there were the gratuitous racist insults towards the bar staff.
Mind you, perhaps we shouldn't put too much store by the lefty Daily Telegraph's account of things :-)
Which is somewhat odd, as I don't think there are too many jihadists there.
Then of course there were the gratuitous racist insults towards the bar staff.
Mind you, perhaps we shouldn't put too much store by the lefty Daily Telegraph's account of things :-)
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do you think they will put a claim in for compensation like the stoke city fans did
>> A group of Stoke City fans have received a payout from Greater Manchester Police (GMP) after they were wrongly targeted under Section 27 of the Violent Crime Reduction Act.
In November around 80 fans were forcibly removed from a pub and taken back to Stoke-On-Trent just hours before a game against Manchester United at Old Trafford. They missed the game despite no crime being committed. The group of men and women was held for hours by police under threat of arrest and later deprived of toilet facilities on the coach. Supporters were instructed to urinate into cups, which spilled on to the floor of the bus leaving fans sitting with urine sloshing around their feet for the entire journey home.
Only six of the 80 fans have received a ticket refund and an unreserved apology from the force after their case was taken up by the Football Supporters Federation (FSF) and human rights group Liberty. Amanda Jacks from the FSF said: “We feel their ordeal needs to be brought to a wider audience if only to flag up the power that police have, and just how willing GMP are to use it.” The Police have said that the 74 Stoke fans who have yet to be compensated were “risk supporters”, an evalution based on “intelligence” that they refuse to make public. However GMP have responded to all complaints received with an apology and a ticket refund. Asmar Chaudry of GMP said, “this speaks for itself”.
Forced Removal
At the time of the forced removal eye witnesses have said there was a pleasant atmosphere at the pub in Irlam with “no singing, shouting, or drunkenness”, a view backed by the pub landlord. Lyndon Edwards a 38-year-old Stoke fan told the FSF they travelled “by mini bus, rather than train, having previously had poor experiences of policing at Piccadilly station” and that all of his group were members of the Stoke Away Membership Scheme meaning they had been vetted by the police. In the interview Lyndon describes the behaviour of his fellow supporters in the pub as exemplary, or even boring. According to Edward’s account, one of the female members of the party began to get distraught at the action of the police. GMP showed no sympathy however, and an inspector, whose number was not displayed and who refused to give his name, told her that she “should know better than to mix with Stoke scum”.
Lyndon, who is now pursuing his complaint with the Independent Police Complaints Commission, says: “It was the worst policing I have ever experienced in all my years as a football supporter. I am absolutely incensed at the way my friends and I were treated. Not one of us in our group has ever been in trouble with the police for any type of offence. We were treated like criminals and this issue needs to be as publicised as widely as possible to let all football supporters know about the danger of Section 27.
The Act itself gives police blanket powers to move people from a specified area for up to 48 hours but was never intended as a measure to police football fans. The legislation was designed to clear nightclubs and public houses in the event of late night disturbances. It gives police powers to move people from any place, at any time, if they think an offence related to alcohol MAY be committed. Worryingly, police forces across the country are using these powers to target football fans.
Other Fans Suffer
According to the FSF, South Yorkshire Police used the Act to prevent Plymouth fans attending Argyles Championship game with Doncaster Rovers on 6 December. Two sets of Plymouth supporters have told the FSF that their groups were escorted out of the county by police under threat of arrest and forced to miss the game having been served with a Section 27. Again no arrests had been made and eye witness accounts say that the atmosphere was quiet. The FSF also claim that Gillingham, Southend and Colchestser fans have received similar treatment on seperate occasions.
>> A group of Stoke City fans have received a payout from Greater Manchester Police (GMP) after they were wrongly targeted under Section 27 of the Violent Crime Reduction Act.
In November around 80 fans were forcibly removed from a pub and taken back to Stoke-On-Trent just hours before a game against Manchester United at Old Trafford. They missed the game despite no crime being committed. The group of men and women was held for hours by police under threat of arrest and later deprived of toilet facilities on the coach. Supporters were instructed to urinate into cups, which spilled on to the floor of the bus leaving fans sitting with urine sloshing around their feet for the entire journey home.
Only six of the 80 fans have received a ticket refund and an unreserved apology from the force after their case was taken up by the Football Supporters Federation (FSF) and human rights group Liberty. Amanda Jacks from the FSF said: “We feel their ordeal needs to be brought to a wider audience if only to flag up the power that police have, and just how willing GMP are to use it.” The Police have said that the 74 Stoke fans who have yet to be compensated were “risk supporters”, an evalution based on “intelligence” that they refuse to make public. However GMP have responded to all complaints received with an apology and a ticket refund. Asmar Chaudry of GMP said, “this speaks for itself”.
Forced Removal
At the time of the forced removal eye witnesses have said there was a pleasant atmosphere at the pub in Irlam with “no singing, shouting, or drunkenness”, a view backed by the pub landlord. Lyndon Edwards a 38-year-old Stoke fan told the FSF they travelled “by mini bus, rather than train, having previously had poor experiences of policing at Piccadilly station” and that all of his group were members of the Stoke Away Membership Scheme meaning they had been vetted by the police. In the interview Lyndon describes the behaviour of his fellow supporters in the pub as exemplary, or even boring. According to Edward’s account, one of the female members of the party began to get distraught at the action of the police. GMP showed no sympathy however, and an inspector, whose number was not displayed and who refused to give his name, told her that she “should know better than to mix with Stoke scum”.
Lyndon, who is now pursuing his complaint with the Independent Police Complaints Commission, says: “It was the worst policing I have ever experienced in all my years as a football supporter. I am absolutely incensed at the way my friends and I were treated. Not one of us in our group has ever been in trouble with the police for any type of offence. We were treated like criminals and this issue needs to be as publicised as widely as possible to let all football supporters know about the danger of Section 27.
The Act itself gives police blanket powers to move people from a specified area for up to 48 hours but was never intended as a measure to police football fans. The legislation was designed to clear nightclubs and public houses in the event of late night disturbances. It gives police powers to move people from any place, at any time, if they think an offence related to alcohol MAY be committed. Worryingly, police forces across the country are using these powers to target football fans.
Other Fans Suffer
According to the FSF, South Yorkshire Police used the Act to prevent Plymouth fans attending Argyles Championship game with Doncaster Rovers on 6 December. Two sets of Plymouth supporters have told the FSF that their groups were escorted out of the county by police under threat of arrest and forced to miss the game having been served with a Section 27. Again no arrests had been made and eye witness accounts say that the atmosphere was quiet. The FSF also claim that Gillingham, Southend and Colchestser fans have received similar treatment on seperate occasions.
I dare say the poppy burners will be allowed to do their deed tomorrow though, causing the usual outrage...But it's a free country where you can have an opinion.Allegedly.
It is a shame that we aren't all treated equally by the Police though,the poppy burners are allowed to do their deeds with full Police protection behind a nice set of safety barriers,before having an escort to the nearest tube station.
Not bad for £50.
It is a shame that we aren't all treated equally by the Police though,the poppy burners are allowed to do their deeds with full Police protection behind a nice set of safety barriers,before having an escort to the nearest tube station.
Not bad for £50.
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