Indie Saturday

[doctordolittle]

15 Down Silver for a can (4) _o_c. I think it is TORC but dont' know why. Anyone got any thoughts?

[dannyk13]

torc is an ancient neck ornament but cant see how it relates

[bibblebub]

john

long john silver / synonym for toilet

[emeritus]

Zinc ?

[cathfromsaron]

coin?

are you sure about the 'c'? x

[cathfromsaron]

corn

('or' replaces a in can?)

[boxtops]

If the C is wrong, John makes sense.

[cathfromsaron]

yes, i agree

[dannyk13]

Me too

[doctordolittle]

I don't think 'john' or 'zinc' fit the clue exactly - where does 'one' fit into the clue?

21 across I thought was 'cairn' but am open to other suggestions

[dannyk13]

what is the clue to 21 across?

[Mamyalynne]

Clue for 21a?

[cathfromsaron]

can and john both slang for toilet!

what was the clue giving ciarn doc?

[Mamyalynne]

21 across: Highlanders home has publicity with news coverage

N air N ?

[dannyk13]

Nairn would allow for John

[Mamyalynne]

Yes

[cathfromsaron]

job done, well done all! x

[doctordolittle]

Highlander's home has publicity with news coverage. Publicity = air with = c (shorthand Latin abbreviation for 'cum') and n for news. But I could be wrong!!

[bibblebub]

2 N's on the outside (i.e. providing coverage) - it's 'news' not just 'new'

[doctordolittle]

Spot on bibblebub. Nairn is obviously the right answer to 21 across but john doesnt quite fit. I accept that john = can = toilet and is also part of Long John Silver's name, but there are usually no redundant parts in clues (Azed: A good cryptic clue contains three elements: a precise definition, a fair subsidiary indication and nothing else). So what does the 'one' contibute to the answer?

As for 2 down - Listerner setters is the best suggestion I have been given but I don't see why. Roll on next Saturday....

[dannyk13]

where is one in the clue?