Father being taken to surgery from nursing home.

[Brimoan]

My father was sectioned under the mental health act and has to have treatment at a surgery 8 miles from the home every 6 weeks.
The NHS will no longer provide transport to that surgery and I have been advised he has got to go in a black cab type taxi so he can not get to the driver.
He is on full NHS funding.
When hospital transport was provided the last time I went with him at the request of the hospital and there was the driver and presumably a carer in the ambulance.
When I received the paperwork from the hospital it stated if I took him out of the secure home there must be at least 2 people with him and when I queried this with the hospital they said the carer in the ambulance counted as the second person even though there were about half a dozen other people in the ambulance.
I have now been advised I will have to pay for the taxi and for a carer to go from the home at a rate of £11.65 per hour.
Can anybody advise me if this is lawful as I was advised it would be unlawful to take my father out of the home on my own.

[factor-fiction]

I noticed Homes123 was around yesterday. Hopefully he'll see this and be able to help you again.

This doesn't sound right to me though. What if you aren't able to go- would they cancel his treatment?

[woofgang]

Can you say what treatment he has to have at the surgery? I would have thought that it would be simpler (and kinder for your Dad) to be visited at the home as its only once every six weeks. Has this option been explored?

[bednobs]

"Homes123 was around yesterday. Hopefully he'll see this and be able to help you again. " or perhaps he'll be suspended!

[ojread2]

hence the removed replies?

[factor-fiction]

There were indeed two detailed replies from Holmes123.
When posts or posters disappear though I'm not sure it necessarily means a suspension or ban has taken place as I suppose it could now be that a user has chosen to deactivate his/her account.

[factor-fiction]

Ah, I'm wrong, sorry. I've just remembered that when a user chooses to deactivate it doesn't remove automatically all their current and previous threads

[ojread2]

surely removing ALL a suspended replies is just sheer foolishness?
There was some useful and excellent information there and it could have been used by many 100's of others

[factor-fiction]

I don't know for certain, ojread2 (sorry, sounds a bit formal), but I think posts remain when posters are suspended. For example there are numerous user-names that have posted under Law that are marked 'suspended' but their posts remain whereas others have presumably been banned as their threads seem to have vanished. I can see that there may be some merit in keeping the posts but it's the Ed's decision I assume (unless mods can Ban users too).

Anyway I don't know whether this particular thread has run its course and whether Brimoan will return in the circumstances but I would actually quite like to know the answer to the query raised in the OP

[bednobs]

factor, there IS no answer as it's completely made up.

[factor-fiction]

i couldn't possibly comment, but the issue may be of interest to some. there was a genuine thread a while ago on something similar but that was just about transport costs for patients rather than carers. I think I know the answer to the initial query (that no charges would be asked for) but I'm not certain

[bednobs]

but that's my point - it's not even an issue. the genuine thread was useful, but this just simply hasn't happened

[factor-fiction]

To answer oj's query:
http://www.theanswerb....uk/members/homes123/

[ojread2]

Thanks for that factor, you went out of your way for me there, much appreciated :)
Yes, of course, there are posts alive from suspended members so it must just be those marked as banned?
Gosh, his answers were full of useful info, all now wasted

[factor-fiction]

Important info can be lost but I wouldn't rely too much on what was in the removed posts in this case. I remember there was some nonsense mixed in with some useful stuff in Homes123's posts and it's hard to sort one from the other sometimes. I know that Brimoan seemed to find the stuff helpful but that's not surprising.

If you have a query, oj, you could ask it on here- there are some genuine users such as Tilly2 who have experience of care home issues and Barmaid who is a legal expert and probably knows about POA. Alternatively, Age Concern or CAB will be a good starting point

[ojread2]

thanks, factor, again :)

Thankfully both parents and both in laws still able bodied and living at home despite all being in their 70's
TBH, I'd rather give up work and look after them myself than see them in a home

Do you think the OP and homes are the same person? blimey :(

[factor-fiction]

Well, without commenting on this one (as it Ed's call), let's just say it happens quite a lot on this topic- there have been plenty of threads where moonglow52, oggleby, clivepen, hastler etc have asked questions and then answered them under various names. Bednobs and I could easily name 20 names.

[ojread2]

Oh :(

Well, I'm rubbish at spotting things like that lol
I know on a parenting forum I used to help moderate we had many 100's of women get pregnant with twins, triplets etc then lose them rather dramatically and 99% of those were outed as fakes and I never saw those coming :(

It's quite sad really - ho hum
Thanks again :)

[lcg]

i would refuse to attend on principle, and make them pay for the staff and the travel. you can meet him at the centre where he is treated and stay with him - you certainly do not have to pay for travel or staff. if they are going to be difficult about it....be difficult right back. and tell them why - they are legally bound to get him to necessary hospital/treatment appointments and the required number of escorts (i am a psych nurse and this is a daily part of my job). they should be grateful for your help and not pressure you to pay just because you go with him. idiots.