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Badger Cull: Justified Or Not?
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Yet another badger cull is about to get under way only 5 years after an independent report which took 10 years to compile and which included culling of badgers concluded that carrying on doing so would have no useful purpose.
But now, a different govt decides to ignore all that scientific study and go for another one. Politics at play? More unnecessary expense to taxpayers? More badgers slaughtered as pawns in a political game?
(Transferred from Animals and Nature)
Yet another badger cull is about to get under way only 5 years after an independent report which took 10 years to compile and which included culling of badgers concluded that carrying on doing so would have no useful purpose.
But now, a different govt decides to ignore all that scientific study and go for another one. Politics at play? More unnecessary expense to taxpayers? More badgers slaughtered as pawns in a political game?
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For what its worth- most of the evidence I have seen would suggest that instituting a badger cull by shooting would do little to halt or prevent the spread of TB. Indeed, one of the findings was that the survivors of such culls would wander and travel to new locations, thus if anything spreading the risk.
15:07 Thu 13th Sep 2012
The main point of this is that the 10 year investigation by ISG Independent Scientific Group stated amongst other things the badger is apparently only one of quite a few beasts capable of transmitting Bovine TB, therefore it could be argued that the badger has been unjustifiably singled out for destruction.
The findings of the ISG appear to have been totally ignored in favour of a hastily commissioned one which took less than two years.
The findings of the ISG appear to have been totally ignored in favour of a hastily commissioned one which took less than two years.
aog I think that if you were a farmer and after each TB test on your herd it proved that some had Bovine TB, so consequently they had to be 'put down' you might take a different view on the matter
I think that part of the problem is knowing 'if' the disease in cows is coming from the badgers. There is no clear proof that it does. It has also been argued that the disease is moving from cows to the badgers.
Surely there has to be a better solution than just killing the badgers.
I think that part of the problem is knowing 'if' the disease in cows is coming from the badgers. There is no clear proof that it does. It has also been argued that the disease is moving from cows to the badgers.
Surely there has to be a better solution than just killing the badgers.
Not justified if there is any truth i the article below
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I just cannot get away from the suspicion that this is nothing more than playing politics at the expense of these helpless animals whose 'crime' is to stand accused without fair trial.
Nothing I've ever heard on the subject - and I'm in no way an expert - has found the badger 'banged to rights', so what gives the present govt the justification to just totally ignore that 10 year study of recent years in favour of a hastily convened one during the last 2 years?
It's totally illogical and a complete slap in the face for those eminent scientists involved in the extensive and painstaking 1998-2007 study. Not to mention the continued massive cost to taxpayers. Crazy!
Nothing I've ever heard on the subject - and I'm in no way an expert - has found the badger 'banged to rights', so what gives the present govt the justification to just totally ignore that 10 year study of recent years in favour of a hastily convened one during the last 2 years?
It's totally illogical and a complete slap in the face for those eminent scientists involved in the extensive and painstaking 1998-2007 study. Not to mention the continued massive cost to taxpayers. Crazy!
For what its worth- most of the evidence I have seen would suggest that instituting a badger cull by shooting would do little to halt or prevent the spread of TB. Indeed, one of the findings was that the survivors of such culls would wander and travel to new locations, thus if anything spreading the risk.
They were working on a vaccine, and were pretty close to having one available but the farming lobby considered that option was too expensive.
It really does seem as if this policy has been introduced in defiance of the best available evidence, on the spurious grounds of cost and ease of implementation.
They were working on a vaccine, and were pretty close to having one available but the farming lobby considered that option was too expensive.
It really does seem as if this policy has been introduced in defiance of the best available evidence, on the spurious grounds of cost and ease of implementation.
It is a sadness and a disgrace. I will also be joining the direct action against this cull. This policy, from a government who wants to reintroduce hunting foxes, stags and other wildlife with dogs, comes as no surprise. They are all just bloodthirsty landowners in the pockets of the NFU.
And they say they don't have the police resources to stop the illegal hunting which still goes on day in, day out. Yet you can bet your life, they'll suddenly find the police resources to go out and protect the badger exterminators against protest.
And they say they don't have the police resources to stop the illegal hunting which still goes on day in, day out. Yet you can bet your life, they'll suddenly find the police resources to go out and protect the badger exterminators against protest.
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