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Here's A Non-Story, Where Will The Cassandras Of The Mail And Telegraph Look Next For Their Scaremongering?
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.I thought this perspective was interesting sandy, written by a 90 year old who fought in the RAF in WW2
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Bear in mind that it is only the 11th January, Sandy. But also take a wider view. An extract from your article:
“By 7:30am dozens of men have gathered outside a building merchant's store that has become an unofficial meeting point for labourers seeking cash-in-hand employment in the grey economies of the construction and decoration industries. Every few minutes a white van pulls up and one or two men peel off, but there is not enough work for them all.
Daniel, a Romanian man in his twenties, arrived in London a year ago, joining family who were already here. He says he gets work most days, typically earning £50-60 ($80-100) - and has no regrets about coming to the UK.”
Things to learn from that:
1. There are large numbers of Romanians and Bulgarians already here. (The article also adds that “…about 141,000 Romanians and Bulgarians are currently employed in the UK, according to the latest official figures.” So almost all of them arrived before the (so called) restrictions were lifted.
2. There is not enough work to go round for those already here. (again, the article goes on to say “…Mircea, a 21-year-old from Bucharest, has been in London for almost two years. He shares a house with 10 people, collectively paying £1,400 ($2,300) a month in rent. But he says he has not earned any money for a month and puts his chances of picking up work on any given morning at no better than 20 per cent."
3. Many of those who do find work will pay no tax or NI
Then, of course, there is the impact this is having on the countries the migrants are leaving:
"Romania is no good," (Daniel) told Al Jazeera. "No money, no jobs. It's finished, completely finished."
"There are no jobs in Bulgaria and the government doesn't look after its people and that is why they leave," a middle-aged man from Burgas on the Black Sea coast told Al Jazeera. However, he has also failed to find any work since arriving in London five months ago.
So, all in all, sounds like a good scheme to me, the likes of which our departure from the EU would see us without. What a tragedy that would be.
“By 7:30am dozens of men have gathered outside a building merchant's store that has become an unofficial meeting point for labourers seeking cash-in-hand employment in the grey economies of the construction and decoration industries. Every few minutes a white van pulls up and one or two men peel off, but there is not enough work for them all.
Daniel, a Romanian man in his twenties, arrived in London a year ago, joining family who were already here. He says he gets work most days, typically earning £50-60 ($80-100) - and has no regrets about coming to the UK.”
Things to learn from that:
1. There are large numbers of Romanians and Bulgarians already here. (The article also adds that “…about 141,000 Romanians and Bulgarians are currently employed in the UK, according to the latest official figures.” So almost all of them arrived before the (so called) restrictions were lifted.
2. There is not enough work to go round for those already here. (again, the article goes on to say “…Mircea, a 21-year-old from Bucharest, has been in London for almost two years. He shares a house with 10 people, collectively paying £1,400 ($2,300) a month in rent. But he says he has not earned any money for a month and puts his chances of picking up work on any given morning at no better than 20 per cent."
3. Many of those who do find work will pay no tax or NI
Then, of course, there is the impact this is having on the countries the migrants are leaving:
"Romania is no good," (Daniel) told Al Jazeera. "No money, no jobs. It's finished, completely finished."
"There are no jobs in Bulgaria and the government doesn't look after its people and that is why they leave," a middle-aged man from Burgas on the Black Sea coast told Al Jazeera. However, he has also failed to find any work since arriving in London five months ago.
So, all in all, sounds like a good scheme to me, the likes of which our departure from the EU would see us without. What a tragedy that would be.
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