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Does This Make Me Racist?
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A question in another section has prompted me to stick my head above the parapet with this one.
I am a fairly frequent hospital in-patient and have encountered fellow patients of all races and colours. I accept their religious differences, dietary needs etc and get along with them all. The hospital I attend is in an area with a large Pakistani population
One thing that really gets my goat up is the preferential treatment often given to Pakistani women. Here are two examples. Read them and tell me if I am being racist or am I in the right to feel aggrieved? In both examples, the women in question could speak English.
1. Visiting is restricted to 2 persons and visiting time is 6pm - 8pm. I had two visitors, as did all other patients, except a Pakistani woman who had SIX visitors, not including a screaming baby. At 8pm, all the visitors left, apart from the Asians. At 9pm yet another one turned up bearing numerous foil cartons of curry which they proceeded to eat around the bed. When I had a quiet word with a nurse she told me SHE would be accused of racism if she asked them to leave. I was fuming. Half an hour later they were still all there and when I looked across, the baby was laid on the bed, in amidst the foil containers, having its rather smelly nappy changed. At this point I lost it, told the nurse in charge that if she wouldn't ask them to leave then she should find someone who would have the guts to do it or I would intervene myself. She did ask them to go and they looked very disgruntled.
2. A different Pakistani woman in the same ward as me was screaming and wailing so loudly I thought she must be in agony. This went on for hours and no one could sleep. Around 1am, 4 female friends/relatives turned up to sit with her. The screaming stopped and they spent the rest of the night keeping us awake with their laughing and joking. Later that day I asked her why she had been screaming and she said "I was bored and lonely. I knew they'd ring my family if I kept up the screaming."
What is your verdict?
I am a fairly frequent hospital in-patient and have encountered fellow patients of all races and colours. I accept their religious differences, dietary needs etc and get along with them all. The hospital I attend is in an area with a large Pakistani population
One thing that really gets my goat up is the preferential treatment often given to Pakistani women. Here are two examples. Read them and tell me if I am being racist or am I in the right to feel aggrieved? In both examples, the women in question could speak English.
1. Visiting is restricted to 2 persons and visiting time is 6pm - 8pm. I had two visitors, as did all other patients, except a Pakistani woman who had SIX visitors, not including a screaming baby. At 8pm, all the visitors left, apart from the Asians. At 9pm yet another one turned up bearing numerous foil cartons of curry which they proceeded to eat around the bed. When I had a quiet word with a nurse she told me SHE would be accused of racism if she asked them to leave. I was fuming. Half an hour later they were still all there and when I looked across, the baby was laid on the bed, in amidst the foil containers, having its rather smelly nappy changed. At this point I lost it, told the nurse in charge that if she wouldn't ask them to leave then she should find someone who would have the guts to do it or I would intervene myself. She did ask them to go and they looked very disgruntled.
2. A different Pakistani woman in the same ward as me was screaming and wailing so loudly I thought she must be in agony. This went on for hours and no one could sleep. Around 1am, 4 female friends/relatives turned up to sit with her. The screaming stopped and they spent the rest of the night keeping us awake with their laughing and joking. Later that day I asked her why she had been screaming and she said "I was bored and lonely. I knew they'd ring my family if I kept up the screaming."
What is your verdict?
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No you are not, I suffered the same thing in hospital several years ago. I had my two visitors but the next bed was surrounded by several Pakistani families, who changed shifts bringing the smelly food, the noise was unbearable, there were no nurses around to complain to and I was bedbound. The next time I went in hospital there was the same loudly wailing woman...
16:19 Sun 19th Apr 2015
I see this time and time again - it is almost as if it is reverse discrimination.
Another example occurred last week. I was patiently waiting my turn for treatment and after me was a young Pakistani woman (in her 20's), accompanied by her mother. I know them both quite well.
When it came to my turn, the mother jumped up and said "Can my daughter go in next...she wants to watch so and so on TV and she will miss it if we have to wait any longer."
The nurse knew I was next and without even looking at me or consulting me, she beckoned the pair to follow her.
I stood up, blocked their way and told the nurse that I was next and I made sure I took my rightful turn.
Another example occurred last week. I was patiently waiting my turn for treatment and after me was a young Pakistani woman (in her 20's), accompanied by her mother. I know them both quite well.
When it came to my turn, the mother jumped up and said "Can my daughter go in next...she wants to watch so and so on TV and she will miss it if we have to wait any longer."
The nurse knew I was next and without even looking at me or consulting me, she beckoned the pair to follow her.
I stood up, blocked their way and told the nurse that I was next and I made sure I took my rightful turn.
ichkeria - re point no. 2..... there have been many times I have been bored and lonely in hospital. I am sure if I demanded several of my relatives be allowed in at 1am to laugh and joke with me throughout the night to the detriment of all the other patients, I would either have been very firmly put in my place by the staff OR had my temperature taken for signs of delerium for making such a request
woofgang, don't get me wrong, I could relate some horror stories about white, English visitors (last time I was an in patient, another patients drunken daughter came to visit her and then came to each bed trying to sell clothes she had just shoplifted from Primark!) but they have always been put in their place/asked to leave sharpish
Definitely not racism but a good example of broken Britain. We are second class citizens in our country. Mrs O I would have spoken out also. For one, no consideration for other patients as the group were allowed to stay after visiting time is up. Two, for hygiene reasons that baby should not have even been in the ward, which I thought children under a certain age were not allowed, let alone having a dirty nappy changing. Three, the smell of that curry would make me throw up.
Bring Back Matron and Carbolic. I say.
Bring Back Matron and Carbolic. I say.
in my opinion you have not been racist in any way.
It seems to me that increasingly some people seem to think that anything said against a person of differing ethnicity is racist. Stating facts is not racist. Recently at work...in a primary school....a young black child came to me and said that another child had made racist comments about him. When I asked what was said I was told that his friend had called him black. I asked the complaining child if he was black and he said he was. I explained that stating a fact is not racist . I asked him what colour I was and he said white. Spot on I said, and you have not been racist in saying so.
too often, it seems to me, that some people will play on the racist card if it suits their purpose. To me it does not matter whether you are white, black, purple or green with yellow spots. It is who you are that matters.
It seems to me that increasingly some people seem to think that anything said against a person of differing ethnicity is racist. Stating facts is not racist. Recently at work...in a primary school....a young black child came to me and said that another child had made racist comments about him. When I asked what was said I was told that his friend had called him black. I asked the complaining child if he was black and he said he was. I explained that stating a fact is not racist . I asked him what colour I was and he said white. Spot on I said, and you have not been racist in saying so.
too often, it seems to me, that some people will play on the racist card if it suits their purpose. To me it does not matter whether you are white, black, purple or green with yellow spots. It is who you are that matters.
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