Have We All Become Too Sensitive?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3328879/Cigarettes-suffragettes-terribly-PC-cracker-prizes-appall-modern-sensibilities.html

Can anyone please explain how they consider the first illustration as a racist image, well on the part of black people at least?

/// Some of the crackers of the day would now be seen as offensively racist, using such terms as ‘sambo’ – while a Black And White collection for another company, Batger & Co, features an exaggerated minstrel-style entertainer. ///

Admittedly that 'S' term is no longer acceptable, but regarding the Black and White collection all one sees is a white person dressed as a 'clown' and the black person dressed as a 'toff'.

[Zacs-Master]

Here we go again. The B&W minstrels debate in a slightly different format.

[hc4361]

For ZM

[IMG]http://i68.tinypic.com/2regxf8.jpg[/IMG]

[anotheoldgit]

hc4361

Link doesn't work.

[Zacs-Master]

No linkey. No likey.

[hc4361]

:(

[Zacs-Master]

Copy the bottommost link in tinypic.

[jno]

http://i68.tinypic.com/2regxf8.jpg

[anotheoldgit]

Zacs-Master

/// Here we go again. The B&W minstrels debate in a slightly different format. ///

No, nothing like the Black & White Minstrel debate, and neither do I wish it to be.

If you wish to debate, please answer the question, do you consider this particular illustration racist, if yes, why? and if no, also why?

Although to me personally the second option is obvious.

[Peter Pedant]

The point of historical study is to understand the context of the material - such as the lampoon against suffragettes ( crackers - geddit ? )
and not to hold our noses and say " ughh we dont do that now!"

so are we too sensitive is inviting us to make a subjective judgement ( again - yawn ) and we should be asking - do we view things differently in the light of subsequent events ? ( answer: yes )

[jno]

love the Mail's approach - "let's run this illustration big so we can tell everyone how appalling it is!"

[Zacs-Master]

I think depicting white people as clowns is very insulting. I'm outraged! Outraged I tells ya!

[anotheoldgit]

hc4361

Now that jno as been good enough to fix your failed link, can you now explain the similarity to my illustration?

[retrocop]

No. I don't find it offensive.I am adult. I have a sense of humour and it wasn't deemed offensive when it was first illustrated and it isn't now either IMO. The wilting flowers who make an occupation of looking for offence should be the ones parodied.
The tinypic looks like a Tory propaganda leaflet. "Labour in Vain"

[anotheoldgit]

Zacs-Master

/// I think depicting white people as clowns is very insulting. I'm outraged! Outraged I tells ya! ///

No we can take it, always had a sense of humour, don't you know?

[hc4361]

Thanks, jno

The point of my link is that ZM is indeed labouring in vain with his post at 10:24

[Zacs-Master]

Glad,to hear it. You should let it out more.

[hc4361]

It's a pub sign, retrocop.

[retrocop]

hc
Really.In this delicate day and age. Is it still being used ?

[Mamyalynne]

I can't comment whether 'we all' are becoming too sensitive , I rarely meet anyone who is.

I found the article interesting and there are some great examples of social history within.

If we would throw up out hands in horror at those, then we best not visit a museum.

[anotheoldgit]

Mamyalynne

/// I found the article interesting and there are some great examples of social history within. ///

Yes Mam I can remember as a boy, looking forward to my regular Christmas stocking filler, a 'SMOKING SET' this comprised of a box with the following contents within, packets of sweet cigarettes, chocolate cigars, sweet brown toffee chewing tobacco and liquorice pipes.