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[dave1948]

17d Has beef been added to the menu, just a little bit, in England (4)
A???

19a Kind of spell that got worked in the 60s; it's at a rum thing (6)
???I?O

If it helps 3rd letter of 17d is 2nd letter of 19a

[Captain2]

19 Moj-it-o?

[dave1948]

Thank you Captain

17a I think is atom.

Would welcome confirmation of both

[Captain2]

I can't get past AVON (in England) but can't see it yet.

[fiction-factory]

What's the reasoning behind Atom please/ just can't see anything pointing to that

[Mamyalynne]

A + (Beef) Tom(ato) ?

Seems a bit elaborate though.

[Davemano]

Atom could be part of Tomato

[dave1948]

Hi Fiction Factor Atom =a small amount a-to-m ?

I cant see Avon at all !

[Captain2]

Where's the 'in England' though folks?

[fiction-factory]

Never thought of that, but I can't see where England fits in or see the definition

[dave1948]

Unless any one comes up with a better answer I'll settle for atom

[Mamyalynne]

No, the definition for 'Atom' (little bit) is in the wrong place.

Odd clue -or maybe a very clever one?

[fiction-factory]

Some crossed posts there- I was responding to Mamyalynne. The "in England" bit at the end spoils that parsing I think

[Mamyalynne]

It does.

[dave1948]

Can only think that the a might be wrong

It comes from :
16a Balkans take Greek island initially over transport (8)
???O?A?S
I thought Samovars ? Any thoughts ?

[Mamyalynne]

Kosovans

[Mamyalynne]

Kos o(over) Vans

[fiction-factory]

So does that make 17d O?O? now please?
Oxon?

[Mamyalynne]

Looks good.

[Davemano]

OxoN

[fiction-factory]

Ignore that= doesn't really work although I can see that beef could just about be OXO at a stretch