Is She Right

[emmie]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42384346

[Jackdaw33]

You've got to be kidding! She's as nutty as a fruitcake.

[emmie]

did you read the link...

[jno]

substantial numbers of foreigners, 18%, in the NHS.

[jno]

sorry, meant to give a link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40753751

[mikey4444]

Common sense dictates that if a large number of the "foreign" workers, currently employed in the NHS were suddenly to leave, then it would be a disaster.

Most people realise that, of course, so I am sure it won't happen.

But this news item and this post will be attacked by the Usual Suspects, just because it involves Diane Abbot, so expect the worse !

[Jackdaw33]

...and the nutty mare will be defended to the hilt by the 'usual suspects'.

[Mamyalynne]

I am no fan, but the statement that the CBI and NHS should be listened to makes clear sense on this issue.

[mikey4444]

Well said Mamy, but people will still shoot the messenger, instead of listening to the message, as I correctly forecast earlier this evening.

[cassa333]

Hmm.

Scaremongering is the reason for 'johnny foreigner' leaving.

As it turns out EU nationals working (or scrounging) in the UK will have more rights than native workers (or scrounges) so no need to go just yet.

The question is not really how many will leave but how many do we need to come each year. And that is what we will eventually be able to control.

[sunny-dave]

I suppose this is like the proverbial "Infinite number of monkeys writing Shakespeare" - eventually they'll get a bit right.

Ms Abbott is a hypocrite, a moral coward and way out of her depth (in my opinion) - but this time she is actually making sense.

[jackthehat]

///Is She Right?///

Generally, 'No'....

But even a stopped-clock is correct once, or twice, a day. :o)

[cassa333]

Sorry posted before I had finished my thought...

Also it doesn't matter much if we are out of the 'we must accept all and any EU worker'. When we are out we can still accept and advertise for workers where we see fit. The difference will be that they won't be able to jump on a plane or boat or whatever on the off chance.

[ToraToraTora]

No. She's completely radio, always has been.

[mikey4444]

TTT...what about the issue...care to comment on that ?

[Hazi-Hammenuhoth]

To answer the question, no. She's not right. She's left. Never been right and never will be.

It seems that whenever Labour doesn't have a policy on an issue, she is wheeled out to confuse the electorate. Excellent at her job and highly entertaining.

[mikey4444]

Thanks Hazi...another person who prefers to shoot messengers, rather than consider the message.

[ToraToraTora]

"TTT...what about the issue...care to comment on that ? " - there is no shortage of workers if employers can't get them off their sofas they'll have to pay more until they can. Market forces dear boy. Migrant workers have been artificially depressing wages, I'd have thought you'd have spotted that mikey. The NHS spends a fortune on agency workers rather than paying proper salaries for full time employees. The NHS needs to shake off its layers of red tape, too.

[mikey4444]

TTT...it can take years to train Nurses and such like.

But even this Government knows that is the case, which is why Mrs May has said that people already here can stay.

[pixie374]

TTT has said more or less what I was going to. It's a bit of a vicious circle and not completely straightforward... the more workers (from anywhere) that are available- the further the wages drop - and that then discourages workers to join, so we have to get them from somewhere else. The pay is artificially low as it is.

[mikey4444]

Pixie...aren't Nurses paid the same, no matter where they come from ?