So What Can/should Be Done With This Savage?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45147682
So he's pleaded guilty, how long will he get? 10 years, out in 5? What then, wait till he actually does kill people? Can he be kept inside somehow?

[Mamyalynne]

I'm dreadful at guesswork but hope it's plenty time behind bars - dangerous individual.

[andy-hughes]

I love how, when he is actually a potential terrorist, he offers as a reason for his trip to the Philippines, that he is a sex tourist!

I suppose on a sliding scale, it is a more preferable occupation, but still not likely to endear him to the authorities is it?

Oh, and in answer to your question, he should be flayed alive, flung into a boiling cauldron, have his bits cut off, he eyes gouged out, is fingernails pulled out …. (continued on page 97).

[mushroom25]

//flayed alive, flung into a boiling cauldron, have his bits cut off, he eyes gouged out, is fingernails pulled out //

isn't that - according to the song - what brave Sir Robin isn't afraid to have happen to him (before he bravely runs away)? :-)

[ToraToraTora]

bit harsh Andy, any thoughts on how we stop him killing people when he gets out?

[jim360]

I am doubtful that he can, or even should, be just locked up forever -- unless, of course, in the time that he is in prison he shows no signs of having changed. What I really mean is that I'd hope that he can be rehabilitated, as ought to be the primary purpose of prison time.

From what little I've seen of this, he doesn't strike me as what I'd usually call a "savage". I'm not quite sure of what else I'd label him -- I'm worried that I'll slip into the "society is to blame" line and I don't mean that at all! Maybe "pathetic"? I mean, have a look at his handwritten note at the bottom of your link. The content aside, it looks like it was written by a primary school kid.

A failed education? Angry, lonely young man? He needs help. Help, I hasten to add, that should be provided while he is behind bars and no danger to the rest of us, but help, all the same.

[Old_Geezer]

I'm unsure that with intentions such as his, the country should take the risk of him being back in society. After any approved period in gaol, he should be considered for permanent help in an institution.

[-Talbot-]

Oh, and in answer to your question, he should be flayed alive, flung into a boiling cauldron, have his bits cut off, he eyes gouged out, is fingernails pulled out …. (continued on page 97).



Other than the boiling cauldron that sounds like what happened at the Bataclan.

[douglas9401]

Just another deluded inadequate to be fed and watered and otherwise drain scarce resources from the public purse.
An imbecile who may yet be dealt with.

[vetuste_ennemi]

//I'd hope that he can be rehabilitated, as ought to be the primary purpose of prison time//

Interesting. I can see that "rehabilitation" is a sensible policy in the treatment of banged-up felons: we want them to be less inclined to rob, rape, murder etc having left prison than they were before enterthey first received the Queen's hospitality.

But surely rehabilitation is not its primary purpose?


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[douglas9401]

Maybe he could be rendered down for candles.

[david small]

Lock him up at broadmore. He is obviously mentally ill.

[waterboatman]

He should get life-and I mean life!

[rowanwitch]

Sad little g it, re education and close surveillance afterwards, but he will find plenty of like minded souls inside...perhaps if he is so desperate to be part of some great plan the chaplaincy can try to reconvert him ...

[sandyRoe]

Recently an 18 year old teenager, Safaa Boular, was sentenced to life for a similar offence. Ludlow will likely get the same.

[Bigbad]

What a traitor.
He should be put up against a wall and shot.
I see one of his potential targets was a Disney Store.
Obviously wanted to kill and maim children.

[naomi24]

Bigbad. Shame on you! Where’s your bleeding heart? Don’t you know his crime warrants flippancy? He needs help … and rehabilitation … poor soul!

[Bigbad]

Having made that comment, doubtless, many would see me as more evil than he is, naomi.
Mehhhhh!

[naomi24]

;o)

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // … bit harsh Andy … //

Really? I toned it down from what I really think in the interests of balance and fairness!

[fiction-factory]

Hope he gets the longest possible sentence but also hope they don't feed him on a tin of tuna and a piece of fruit a day in solitary confinement or there will lots on here demanding answers from the Home Secretary won't there?