Listener 4631 Seconds Out By Stick Insect

[upsetter]

A rare occasion where we can say have solved the puzzle but not the normal clues at this moment.

[IainGrace]

Good fun albeit relatively easy grid fill once the penny has dropped. Like the need for a “best guess”....

[Alekhine]

So, you haven't finished it then?

Why post at 18.00 on the day before the puzzle is actually published when you haven't actually finished?

Oh, I know.

What a clown.

[perseverer]

Whatever your opinion, no need for rudeness!

I have not yet fully parsed one clue, so does that mean I have not finished?

[Philoctetes]

A nice challenge. But I doubt we will know the correct solution for some weeks

[upsetter]

@Alekhine
Why are you behaving in such a disagreeable manner?

[Cruncher]

Haha. Comments below perfectly in keeping with some of the mudslinging going on elsewhere

[Cruncher]

Or above even...

[Scorpius]

"Why are you behaving in such a disagreeable manner?"

It seems to be his self-appointed role now on this forum. Unless I've missed something he hasn't posted a comment on a puzzle for months, and his last comment was in similar vein.

Anyway, an enjoyable puzzle. Half a penny dropped after two thematic solves, the other half followed later. Easier than average, but a few tricky clues, including most thematic ones, meant it wasn't a doddle.

[Hagen]

This was an excellent piece of construction for which there is a famous precedent. Yes the clues were quite easy, though I struggled with the SE corner.

Technically nobody can be certain of having finished this puzzle correctly - does that mean that this excellent crossword should go unremarked upon? Of course not.

I didn't realise there was an earlier thread when I commented on the other one. Should have realised when I didn't get abuse for my first post on there...

[perseverer]

A quote from Alekhine, August 2018 -

"IainGrace … I don't think I ever suggested that there was harm in posting before completion … merely that I don't understand why people do it. Pushmipullyu has offered one reason why he/she does it and, although that feels fairly tenuous to me, if it works, that's cool.

I agree with you that there are clearly no rules ... hence my facetious attempt to highlight that with a ridiculous example.

You've reassured me hugely anyway with the revelation that
you yourself have even posted before finishing. Well ... that's good enough for me."

Entitled to a an opinion, yes, sarcasm perhaps ok, but downright rudeness in response to upsetter and myself surely unacceptable. Not that, I imagine, Alekhine will care what I say. Perhaps someone upset his chessboard.

[upsetter]

I should have added "Thanks, Stick Insect".

[upsetter]

@perseverer - perhaps they upset his cheeseboard.

[pushmi-pullyu]

Although it was on the easy side I really enjoyed this one.

[NickorWan]

Very enjoyable thanks, Stick Insect.

Really unsure about one entry, just hope and pray the printed solution matches mine.

[olichant]

I think I almost always agree with NickorWan.

Really enjoyable puzzle.

Hope that everyone who gathers here is well.