Cryptic Jumbo

[stevenj]

Blimey! Am I struggling! That’s not a question! I just can’t get into this setter’s way of thinking. I have managed about half so far. No chance of me finishing before I’m summoned for the bath.
Is it just me? Or do others find it tough?
steven

[cashier]

I found it quite difficult steven. With some of he clues, even when I found the answer, I couldn't fit them together. Stopped for tonight, try some more tomorrow. Good luck.

[elliemay1]

Give us a clue

[Captain2]

Hi Steven, I don't do the crossword but if you want to put up a couple of clues we could see if we could get you further forward before the bath. ;)))

[Neveracrossword]

It was the toughest Jumbo I had tackled for a while. I had a lie- down in a darkened room afterwards.

[stevenj]

Well that’s a relief! Here’s one clue, for example.
Group that has lately been rolling off our neighbour’s tongue (8,6)
I have some letters: ?o? v ?…/ ?i?h? s
s

[Buenchico]

^^^ Seen as 'nouveaux riches' but I can't parse it!

[stevenj]

Actually I thought of “ nouveaux riches” but, for the life of me I cannot think of any reason, other than it fits .

[Buenchico]

'Neighbour's tongue' is presumably an indicator that it's a French term but I can't get the rest of it.

[Captain2]

Hmmm, would perhaps make more sense if it read 'rolling in it, in...' rather than 'rolling off'.

See what you mean though Steven, if that's an example.

[Buenchico]

Recently = new (nouveaux)???
rolling = riche (riches), as in 'rolling in it'???

[stevenj]

Blimey, Buenchico! A brilliant attempt to provide a solution!

[goodgoalie]

Finally managed to finish this (Times Jumbo 1569), but it was the hardest for a long time. Yes, the parsing for 'nouveaux riches' is the reference to 'rolling in it'.

[Lie-in King]

I haven't really looked at any puzzles since March, but from the comments last night, I thought I'd give this one a go this morning. About 80 mins to complete & yes, some tricky parsing.

I'm not sure it's rekindled my interest, but am glad I did it.

If anyone wants the puzzle, it's here -

https://tinyurl.com/mtu9tykk

Open the link, close the "Sign in" box that might appear & you should see a black bar at the bottom of the screen - click the printer symbol on the far right of that bar. You might need to adjust your printer settings - eg, mine says "Fit to printable area".

[stevenj]

Well, eventually, I finished it! I say “ finished “ but some of my answers are there because they fit and respond to at least some of the clues.
Maybe I was just too tense. SWMBO certainly thought so. And the bath certainly helped me relax.
Thanks to those who commented
Certainly glad to see LiK back in action. I did wonder what had happened to him. And I can’t help but be overawed at his speed in solving the puzzle!!
steven

[goodgoalie]

Hi Steven

I might have told you this before, but if you put the words 'lucian' and poll' into a search engine it will take you to his website where every week he not only provides the solution (after a day or two) but parses every single clue, and has a go about any duffers he feels are there - he particularly hates French in the clues or answers!
Don't want to provide a direct link as my post might well be removed.

[stevenj]

No, goodgoalie, you hadn’t given me that info before. I’ll look it up sometime during the coming week. Thanks!
s

[goodgoalie]

You can also leave your own comments about each Jumbo there, as I did this week

[stevenj]

I just looked up this site. Very good! Thanks
I got all the right answers and, to an extent, the reasoning. I am grateful to you, good goalie. LiK , Mamyalynne, NAC and others usually provide me with reasoning and they certainly helped me develop my crossie skills. Thanks to you all.
steven