New Car Tax Per Mileage

[renegadefm]

Not sure if this is correct at the time of typing this, but my partner read something online about proposed plans to charge motorists car tax per mile. 

 

Not sure how this will work on my car as its a Citroen C1 and I only pay £20 a year. But it becomes per mile it surely won't encourage motorists to have small economical cars.

 

Or am I barking up the wrong tree? 

[Buenchico]

As more and more electric vehicles are coming onto our roads (and currently not paying any Vehicle Excise Duty), the government is effectively bein forced to look at other ways of raising taxes from motorists.  Therefore 'road pricing' is a very attractive option to them.  As it's a model that has the support of both the AA and the RAC, it's quite likely to go ahead.

However any announcement in the Autumn Budget is likely to be little more than a 'statement of intent', as there's currently still a lot of detail to be worked upon.

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/consumer-news/364095/labour-could-introduce-regressive-pay-mile-road-tax-octobers-autumn-budget

https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/fleet-faq/what-is-road-pricing-and-how-does-it-work

[renegadefm]

The problem for motorists like me who live in a very rural area, a car is a vital part of any family. 

We can't rely on buses etc to get to work. So it would seem unfair charging motorists more just to get to and from work. 

 

Plus my partner is a carer, so she wracks up quite a lot of milage, but then again its her work, so why would motorists be hammered just to get about for their career? 

[DDIL]

I live in a very rural area and currently pay high vehicle tax but only use my car 40 miles per week at the most.

For me it would be an improvement.

[douglas9401]

Pigheadedness, having talked themselves into an impossible corner our masters do what they do best, after fawning over unwashed invaders that is, they tax their citizens from all sides and in ever more devious ways.

[Hopkirk]

It's a long way off, so don't worry.

I suspect it will never happen as it is very difficult to do.

[ToraToraTora]

Road pricing is innevitable. More and more lecky jam jars are paying burger all, the VED take is reducing.  The government cannot back track and start charging VED on the lecky cars thus road pricing is the answer. The tech is well established and could easily be rolled out. Cars will be fitted with a tracker box similar to what young drivers have for insurance companies. Motorists will get a bill like a utility bill. The price will vary depending on road and time of day.

[Hopkirk]

"The government cannot back track and start charging VED on the lecky cars"

Try to keep up TTT. EVs are about to be subject to VED.

 

The government cannot back track and start charging VED on the lecky cars

[Hopkirk]

Oops 

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vehicle-tax-for-electric-and-low-emissions-vehicles

[ToraToraTora]

23:29 fair enough if they are but I'd have thought the whole net zero project would take that off the table. Zero VED is one of the much trumpeted advantages of getting an electric car so I am surprised at that.

[Old_Geezer]

Underlines the sheer stupidity of trying to control the public by letting certain vehicles off of road tax. These screw-ups come home eventually. Best thing they could do is reverse their control freakery actions and apply the tax fairly to all. Oh, and profusely apologise and offer to pay back the unfair tax to those who had been forced to keep paying for their choice of vehicle. 

 

As for pay per mile, that is another abominable money grab/data collection on the citizens. Bad enough they tax fuel but they need to keep their nose out of where we go and how far we go.

 

Society's dregs, the lot of 'em.

[THECORBYLOON]

OG, "Best thing they could do is reverse their control freakery actions and apply the tax fairly to all."

What would be a fair means of applying the tax/Vehicle Excise Duty?

[davebro3]

base it on vehicle weight?

[Old_Geezer]

The same way it used to be before government decided to let those who complied with government desires go free or for a low amount, would be fair enough. Or alternatively you could opt for a flat rate for all, inc. cycles. That'd be good since we're still foolishly allowing the things on the road despite how much more dangerous it is now due to the population skyrocketing and thus the amount of traffic too.

[renegadefm]

Old_Geezer, 

 

Your not wrong there. When I passed my test in 1986 there wasn't anything like the amount of traffic on the roads compared to today. 

But in those days not everyone in the family had a car like they have now. 

 

Families would share one car. I remember growing up we only had one car, so basically Mum would take Dad to work and go wherever she had to go while Dad was at work. 

But its as if people today have to have a car, not sure where that trend started, sometime in the late 90's I think.

 

Bit like when we all had to have a mobile phone. I was one of last that I know to own one, as I do see the need for it.

 

[ToraToraTora]

renegadefm: "But its as if people today have to have a car, not sure where that trend started, sometime in the late 90's I think." - the problem is that societally motoring is too cheap, that means even work shy scum can afford personal private transport. Thus it has become an expectation.

[THECORBYLOON]

OG, is it fair for someone who travels 5,000 mile a year to pay the same VED as his or her neighbour who drives a similar car 20,000 mile a year?

[barry1010]

renegade, my parents didn't have a car. I don't think I sat in a car until I was 14/15

[jourdain2]

That is silly - my car is economical, because we live miles from anywhere with 2 buses per week (neither of which goes near to Doctors' etc.).  It is prejudiced against people living outside major cities.  Hope it is not true.

[renegadefm]

ToraToraTora, 

 

I see where your coming from, but I don't necessarily find motoring that cheap. Fuel has quadrupled in price since I passed my test in 86. 

Plus the cars themselves are not cheap to buy unless you buy a banger, then its probably going to be always in the garage which isn't cheap. Then theres insurance etc. 

Personally I find owning a car quite a luxury. The motorists always seem to get hammered. 

[renegadefm]

That's the problem we have, there isn't buses to where we need to go, work etc. 

So a car is pretty vital to survive in a rural area.