Daily Mail & Guardian.

[Theland]

Can Daily Mail & Guardian readers ever live in peace together?
Quite often on AB there is sneering and sniggering as each ridicules each others choice of newspaper, or even if a view is expressed that is perceived as being consistent with each papers editorial stance.
It was recently suggested to me that I had a Daily Mail where my heart should be. (Well at least it wasn't the Sun, Star or Sport!)
Also, if Guardian readers are referred to as, "Guardianistas," what is the equivalent term of endearment for a Daily Mail reader?

[WaldoMcFroog]

'Daily Mail Islanders', after the Charlie Brooker 'TV Go Home' sketch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail#Common _satirical_target

[China Doll]

Heh... I can think of a few terms for Daily Mail readers but I'm not sure how endearing they'd be ;0)

I think mostly it's just light hearted banter, I take the mick out of Gromit for reading the Torygraph too. And despite my little, limp wrists I don't actally read the Guardian as it goes.

[Gromit]

Though I read the Telegraph I can easily spot its Tory bias. It become virtually unreadable near election time, when it become particularly one sided. Whatever you read, (or whichever TV channel or website you see) you should bear in mind that it will have been edited by a human being with their own prejudices, bias' and agenda.

In general, people buy news which reaffirms their long established beliefs and not as an objective source of information.

[China Doll]

Thinking about it, two of my best friends are avid Daily Mail readers and despite this astonishing circumstance we've managed to muddle along for the last 15 years.

And I have in the past admitted to doing the crossword in the Mail at lunchtimes.

See how tolerent I am?

[VillageVicar]

I recall being on a BA flight last month:, when the crew were offering newspapers, I politely said 'no thank you' as I slightly raised my copy of the Guardian from my lap, to show that I already had a paper. The flight attendant said 'Oh, you're one of those.' And at that, she moved on. I was puzzled by the comment. I can see how we can easily become tagged.

My sweet uncle believed religiously that what was written in the Mail, was gospel. So, I affectionately referred to the Mail as the Daily Gospel when I was around him.
I've only once used the term outside of the family when I had a polite conversation with Peter Hitchens over a column he wrote regarding my son.

Mr Hitchens had lambasted our local MP, taking only a snippet of what he had said on telly, and twisting it so badly that it had virtually no truth. It was as if he had raised his head from reading the paper, to listen to the last few seconds of the evening news, entirely missing the substance.

I followed up my conversation with a letter, sending him a copy of the MP�s full comments, as was printed in the Guardian. And I sent a copy of a letter I had received from David Cameron regarding the same thing.

Continued:

[VillageVicar]

Part 2

The following week, Mr. Hitchens politely acknowledged our communication in his column. But there wasn�t a scintilla of comment from him to correct, ease, or clarify his misunderstanding. In fact, he continued his diatribe.

I felt increasingly sorry for the MP as I had people come up to me during the week, saying how appalled they were at what he said. One man told me that he wanted to �punch his lights out.� And no matter how I tried to correct the misinformation, at least with the people I met, their opinions had already been formed.

When I told my son of a couple of the encounters I had, he reminded me of Uncle David and added, �You�ve just met some more of Britain�s Daily Veilers.� I told him I thought that was probably a bit harsh. Willem clarified his comment by saying it was the Mail that put the veil over the eyes of its readers, not the readers doing themselves.

So, whether it�s �Guardianistas� or �Veilers,� I suppose no one wants to be tagged.


Read: Thugs must learn that good can mean nasty

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/live/artic les/columnists/mailonsunday.html?in_article_id =433735&in_page_id=1791

Following week:

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/live/artic les/columnists/mailonsunday.html?in_article_id =435427&in_page_id=1791

[4GS]

I am an avid DM reader, however I am realistic enough to take some of its content with a large pinch of salt. In my opinion, you pays your money and you takes your choice, horses for courses and all that. If someone chooses to read the Guardian or the Sun or even the Daily Sport, that is up to them. What the subscribers need to realise is thaty newspapers exist for one reason only, and that is to make money, they may have a policical agenda, they may not, in the words of Billy Connoly ' I read the Sun and I don't care who runs the country, as long as they have big t1ts'

[chakka35]

Ah, there you are, 4GS! (Sorry to hijack your thread, Theland.) Did you see my comments on "Jesus, Man or Myth?", aimed at you, on 14/10, timed at 14:14, in the R&S section?

[heathfield]

Guardian 'virtually unreadable' near election time, Gromit? I find the Daily Mail unreadable all the time, and for those very same reasons! ;-)

[ruby27]

Of course we can, you and I are a case in point.

I read the Guardian so my views are correct albeit left, you read the Daily Mail so your views are wrong although right. Perfect harmony.

Bye the way why have you not ventured out of S and C to Sport with you avator and invited people to be your freind. I thought you would welcome the opportunity of protelyzing (? spelling and meaning) via private messages

[Theland]

ruby27 - Out of S & C? Sport? Avatar?
I'm sorry, that all went right over my head.
Please explain it all to me, as I am in dire need of friends, as you can imagine after reading some of the threads!

[Oakleaf51]

I read the freebies.

[ruby27]

Theland
do you seriously not know
I am not going to go to the effort of explaining to you if I already know how, but, if you do want to know, I will or someone else will explain private messages in Sport

[Theland]

Nope. Never seen anything about private messages. What is it? Exchanging e mail addresses?

[Theland]

Ruby - Is this so you can pull me into a corner and give me a private ticking off?

[China Doll]

Go in to SAB and you profile and click on the bit that says recieves private messages. You can add friends by putting the name of the person you want to be friends with and then an invite is sent to them which they either turn down or accept.

[ruby27]

Absouletly

You need to go to the sports section and for fill in your profile. You will use your same username and password, so don't worry you will still be The Land. You then get to pick a picture - the ones AB offer are a bit dull, you will need to choose some appropriate icon. Go into the pub chat and I will put a post in there (after this). You will find in posts across the sport section other people. I am the Irish Setter, called Ruby. You send a message asking to be a freind, and if the person is inclined they will accept this and then you can post breif messages to each other like email on AB.