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LISTENER CROSSWORD 4022 At arms length by Hotspur
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Maybe all our prominent members are resting after last week's exertions, so I'll kick off this week's thread. Haven't had more than a glance at it yet and am not too familiar with this setter.
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.After last week's agony (sadly we are still struggling!) We have been waiting avidly for the thread to begin. We newcomers are finding this one so much 'easier' and have almost completed the grid filling - found the title and author - but now have the final stage to discover.
Whatever the Listener police say, for us it remains a really valuable experience to hear how others handle the Listener and to pick up solving tips. We echoed last week's 'Hear hear' comment and do hope Apache4D will continue to contribute.
Whatever the Listener police say, for us it remains a really valuable experience to hear how others handle the Listener and to pick up solving tips. We echoed last week's 'Hear hear' comment and do hope Apache4D will continue to contribute.
i think this is hotspur's debut, Clamzy. Nice puzzle with 1 across having be perplexed for awhile as i had the more obvious misprint.
"Two sets of words incorporate the idea in the work's title" still has be perplexed. There seems to be 4 obvious names as complete entries and several others as parts of entries, but they do not make an obvious set. There is an obvious surname which i am not sure if it has significance.
will have to take another look tomorrow now.
K - I can send you a copy if you would like [email protected]
"Two sets of words incorporate the idea in the work's title" still has be perplexed. There seems to be 4 obvious names as complete entries and several others as parts of entries, but they do not make an obvious set. There is an obvious surname which i am not sure if it has significance.
will have to take another look tomorrow now.
K - I can send you a copy if you would like [email protected]
I cannot say I'm particularly fond of setters who deliberately mislead with ambiguous misprints (though inadvertent ones inevitably occur). The ambiguity in 1a is clearly deliberate, and there are ambiguities elsewhere, though perhaps not so blatant. Moreover, some of the definitions, presumably chosen to provide the necessary misprint, strike me as somewhat loose.
I think 3dn is OK; the answer is one word. However, I think there are several other problems with the clueing (including a completely inaccurate definition). Members of the first set to be highlighted seem completely arbitrary, all but two are generically inappropriate and there are more than the number required, so the highlighting appears to be ambiguous. As to the rendezvous, the only one I�ve found that�s remotely appropriate appears in several places, slightly jumbled. I hope the published solution turns out to be more elegant than the one I have.
We, the newcomers, are still worried about the highlighting- we have to agree with Jabone that we might not be right in some of our solutions - we have a dilemma about why an early h would be a misprint and particularly, whether we have chosen the wrong end of that clue as our definition part.
We are also dubious about how to split our potential members of the two sets (red herrings?) and a relatively dubious rendez-vous.
We are also dubious about how to split our potential members of the two sets (red herrings?) and a relatively dubious rendez-vous.
Well, I would like to get to the highlighting stage in order to form an opinion of it, too!
I have a completed grid, and a potential first set of members from grid entries with a common link (the second word of the literary work formed by the misprints) if my thinking is right. Two grid entries are (second word of the literary work) from different sources. I have found, though not in a straight line, the (last word of the title)'s of these, and they share three letters, is this where they rendezvous? Am I going along the right path?
I have a completed grid, and a potential first set of members from grid entries with a common link (the second word of the literary work formed by the misprints) if my thinking is right. Two grid entries are (second word of the literary work) from different sources. I have found, though not in a straight line, the (last word of the title)'s of these, and they share three letters, is this where they rendezvous? Am I going along the right path?
. . . and, as sometimes happens after posting one's doubts of the final step, one finishes the puzzle in a blinding rush, and the rendezvous explains the title of the puzzle. Thank goodness for Wikipedia.
I have to say though I quite liked this one. Maybe that's something to do with the fact I'm still relishing in the warm glow from finishing it, but I thought 3dn was fair enough and other clues (15a and 52a) were pretty good. Some of the wordplay is still puzzling and the link between the answer and it's adjusted definition in 18a is unclear, though.
But it's good to see more new solvers appearing on this thread.
I have to say though I quite liked this one. Maybe that's something to do with the fact I'm still relishing in the warm glow from finishing it, but I thought 3dn was fair enough and other clues (15a and 52a) were pretty good. Some of the wordplay is still puzzling and the link between the answer and it's adjusted definition in 18a is unclear, though.
But it's good to see more new solvers appearing on this thread.
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