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plum7 | 10:01 Wed 25th Nov 2009 | Crosswords
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8d Wind is up, low murmur initially (6) S?M??? (Could it be samiel? but I can't see where the A and E come from!)
13a Beating which leaves a permanent impression has.... (6) ?A?T?? (I thought of tattoo, but it doesn't fit with samiel)
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8d Simoom
'is' backwards, 'moo' and the 'm' from murmur =hot wind and a very convoluted crossword it has been too!
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