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thumbscrew | 15:28 Sat 27th Nov 2010 | Crosswords
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12ac. Joke repeated by honeymooner.(3) o?e. is this one it is repeated twice in the word honeymooner but i can't tie it in with joke.
28ac. In a cunning way, keen to take over paper in trouble.(8) C?A?T?L?. is this craftily and why please.
21dn. Second in importance (6)?O?E?T. is this moment and why please
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12a yes that's it

28a keen = CRY, and put that outside of paper = FT, and put THAT outside of trouble = AIL
21d yes double meaning
A second in time. Important as in momentous?
28d sorry, got the surrounding bits slightly wrong CR a FT il Y
keen=cry
paper=FT
trouble=ail
moment=second
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