Jubilee celebrations unite communities from all parts of society in patriotic pride.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail....-patriotic-pride.html

This type of statement was banded about by various sections of the media over the jubilee weekend, but is it really true?

From what I witnessed, members of the ethnic communities were noticeable by their absence in the crowds at the Street Parties, along the Embankment, in the Mall, in the Concert crowds, and outside the Palace.

The TV camera men would pan the crowds in search of members from these communities, and when they did spot one they focused their cameras upon them, the lady pictured in the Daily Mail was one such person and good for her, I am pleased to see that she at least wants to truly integrate into British society.

But is it true that in the last 60 years the Queen has overseen the "transformation" (of Britain) into a multi ethnic, multi racial and diverse nation?

If it is actually true, it is certain that we have not seen a completely united nation.

[emmie]

our area didn't seem to be aware that there was a celebration on, no idea why. Unless they were all hidden from view, it was as quiet as a church mouse. Very disappointing.

[sp1814]

AOG

Ah...have a look in the paper version of the South London Press (not the online edition which hasn't been updated yet).

There were street parties in Camberwell, Peckham, Kennington, Dalston and Brixton.


Also - have a look at what went on in Leeds:

http://southleedslife...jubilee-street-party/

My sister and brother attended three street parties over the weekend. Why black and Asian celebrators stayed away from the Mall is anyone's guess - but it certainly wasn't anything to do with not wanting to take part.

I myself didn't go to the Mall because it would've been a complete pain to get back from, and it's much better to watch these things on telly anyway.

[ichkeria]

Bear in mind that the only truly "united nations" are often not free countries.
It may be that it's a certain type of person who goes to these things. It doesn't mean that the people who don't go are all anti-monarchy, anti-Britain etc etc

[sp1814]

It IS true however, that the BBC in particular was scouring the crowds for a sign of non-white celebrators. They kinda do the same during the Notting Hill Carnival (only the opposite way around - they go looking for middle-aged white revellers to prove how everyone is getting on).

But you do raise an interesting point.

If you take a camera crew to teh West Indies and ask locals their opinion of the royal family, they are almost shockingly patriotic. Even more so than your 'average' Brit.

However, the patriotism of older colonial subjects has not transferred to their children and grandchildren.

Its something that someone should really look into - what DO young black and Asian people feel about the royal family.

Something else to complicate the question - remember when Diana died? I noticed a significant number of non-white mourners.

Why would that be???

[Gromit]

Quite a few dusky looking ones from this Lancashire Jubilee Street party

http://www.lancashire...?type=articlePortrait

Others are not hard to find

http://news.bbcimg.co...60647454_refugees.jpg

http://static.guim.co...s-a-paper-cro-008.jpg

http://www.thetelegra...type=articleLandscape

[Mick-Talbot]

From what I witnessed, members of the ethnic communities were noticeable by their absence


So you were actively trying to spot ethnic peeps .....how odd.

Why?

[emmie]

gromit, what is perhaps noteworthy from the first picture, is you can only see one white person amongst the whole lot, unless that was the point.

[jno]

there were plenty around me in Battersea Park during the river pageant. I don't know how many street parties you attended for your research but it's possible you, and the TV cameras, somehow missed ones involving non-whites.

[pdq1]

Now I know what mass hysteria looks like.

[bazwillrun]

"But is it true that in the last 60 years the Queen has overseen the "transformation" (of Britain) into a multi ethnic, multi racial and diverse nation? "

like the rest of us she didnt really have any choice, it was forced on us

[jno]

nobody forced Enoch Powell to start bringing West Indians in to man the NHS when he was health minister, he just did it.

[FredPuli43]

I was down Grosvenor Road. There were not many young people, of any colour, there. It was a predominantly middle-aged and older crowd. (Grosvenor Road is the road that runs along the river on the north bank, from Vauxhall Bridge, through Pimlico and Chelsea) The black presence was what was representative of the area.

Did you notice and absence of young people AOG ? It may be that the young (whites) are not as 'patriotic' (whatever that means; you may care to give your definition) as the older folk, just like the West Indians sp1814 mentions.

[bazwillrun]

"nobody forced Enoch Powell to start bringing West Indians in to man the NHS when he was health minister, he just did it. "

Exactly, we didnt get any choice then or anytime since

[EDDIE51]

I watched the celebrations in Walford on Eastenders , plenty of black faces there !

[China Doll]

I didn't want anything to do with the celebrations and I'm white and english. I don't see how my race has anything to do with my own opinions on the royal family and this celebration. I also had no interest in the wedding either.

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

Your first link could be any street scene in a prominent Asian area, notice the lack of Union flags or any other flag wavers.

Second link, shows just two children one wearing a crown with a non- Union flag upon it.

Third link, one of the same two children, taken from a different angle.

Fourth link, half a dozen Asian chaps, wearing union Flag headgear and aprons.

/// Others are not hard to find ///

At least you made the effort, but these few examples fall into insignificance compared to the thousands who turn out.

PS Like the new Avatar, much better.

[anotheoldgit]

jno

/// nobody forced Enoch Powell to start bringing West Indians in to man the NHS when he was health minister, he just did it. ///

And yet he is hated by some, yet he should go down in history for bringing in immigrants that contributed most valuably to the welfare and good of this country.

[anotheoldgit]

FredPuli43

/// Did you notice and absence of young people AOG ? It may be that the young (whites) are not as 'patriotic' (whatever that means; you may care to give your definition) as the older folk, ///

A few examples here Fred, to prove you may have got it wrong.

http://static.guim.co...lee---Street--004.jpg

http://static.guim.co...bilee---Day-1-007.jpg

http://static.guim.co...bilee---Day-1-009.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co...005DC-615_966x679.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co...005DC-257_472x607.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co...005DC-273_472x617.jpg

[Gromit]

// Your first link could be any street scene in a prominent Asian area //

It was a jubilee Party.


http://www.lancashire...s_in_East_Lancashire/